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The organization may face a sudden elimination of funding.

By Diana Fairbanks
Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 1:19 p.m.

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Three weeks past the budget deadline, lawmakers and the governor are still finalizing many of the details of the state budget. And there are some important issues still unresolved and unfunded.

Even some programs that were thought to be safe may not be, like MSU Extension.

We have the latest and have a closer look at what's at stake in tonight's Fact Finder Report.

Grand Traverse County Extension Director Jim Wiesing says "MSU Extension in the Grand Traverse County office means many things to many people. To some people it means agriculture, others 4H, to some it's land use planning or master gardener education or food and nutrition programs or parenting education."

For about 150 years MSU extension offices in every county have helped people get information about a wide variety of subjects. It was actually part of the deal when the state received federal money to create Michigan State University. Today MSU extension receives state federal and local money to cover their costs.

With the state budget crisis, MSU extension learned they would have a 44% reduction in state funding for the next year, but the plan was to use federal stimulus money to make up the difference.

Weising says,"We thought in the near term our budget was ok. We heard rumors this morning that perhaps there could be a threat of complete elimination of funding for MSU extension."

Lawmakers have approved the budget and sent it to Governor Granholm. But Weising has heard talk that the governor might line item all funding for MSU Extension, which would have wide reaching and immediate consequences.

Weising says, "under the current situation, if the rumors are true and if our funding is to be terminated or ends very soon it would be a complete closing of all 82 county offices. It would be a cessation of programming, 4H would be shut down, volunteers would be recalled, programs we've been scheduling to do in the near future would all cease and of course the immediate lay off and termination of all employees."

That's more than 20 at the Grand Traverse County office and more than 700 employees statewide.

But how much it would save the state is not a simple answer.

Weising says, "MSU extension and ag research budget combined from the state in $64 million so that is the total amount that could be possibly saved under the total elimination. If in fact that happens, the irony is that MSU extension and the other programs would lose the cumulative effect in $1.1 billion."

That's money would be lost from other funding sources like the federal government, if the state eliminates its funding.

And Weising says the impact goes far beyond the bottom line.

Weising says, "if we are eliminated it would be a detriment to higher education and the citizens of Michigan, not a help. In other words, the $64 million does more good for the people of Michigan than just having that money reserved in the budget."

I did contact the governor's office about this issue. Her spokesperson Liz Boyd says, "Funding for this program is in the Higher Education budget, which just arrived on the governor's desk yesterday. The bill is being reviewed and we will not have anything specific to say about the action the governor will take until she signs the bill. I will confirm that the Governor said she expects to use her veto pen when signing the budgets on her desk."

If this does happen, Weising says it would have to happen within the next two weeks. That's how long the governor has to line item veto something from a bill on her desk.

So what do you think about this? Leave your comments below.

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4-H

Posted by Jacci Eddington, Roscommon County - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 3:47 p.m.

I have been a 4-H member for over 13 years and a leader for 1 in Roscommon County and I believe they need to set something up so 4-H can keep running with out the extension offices. If this is to happen in the next few years.It would have been wrong if they did away with 4-H it does good for kids to be in it there is not much in Mi to do.

unemployment

Posted by linda sharpe, fenton,mi.48430 - Friday, October 30, 2009 at 10:57 a.m.

dear grovernor granholm i know in times like this its very hard to make the right dessinsions. but please pass the bill don't though it out please we all need that extension. there can make cars cheaper my my butting on the stuff that nestasairy if people wants it fully lowed have the cars older that way. with everybody help we can get though. i've done bindery work all my life and my job went out of business i'mstilooking for work but no luck, i know i can greet people and stock shelfs in the store but there don't want to give me a chance,i'm about 60 and i know ican learn some of these stuff i can learn them. if there would give me a chance i weather be working not looking for a job please sign that extansion and i hope i can get it it's going to be a wild for the job coming to getup and running want are we surpose to do until there get here. what are we surpose to do till there get here. i know i don't the skills to learn these jobs and i wish i did i know you tring hyour best but don't throw the extension out think you

Hopefull!! But could indeed lose my job!

Posted by Anxious Scared, Northern MI - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 5:33 p.m.

I liked this comment because it's what we need to do...NOW IS THE TIME...
"This isn't over yet folks! The house can override her decision if she vetoes the funding. Be sure to contact your representative as well as the Governor's office to say NO to the end of Extension and Ag Experiment Station and ensure that your representative knows where their constituents stand on this important issue!"

uneemploymentextension

Posted by linda sharpe, fenton,mi.48430 - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 1:42 p.m.

i'm glad to see the jobs coming to michigan. now please governor pass the other extension it will take time for these jobs to come the trouble with me i don't have the skills to learn these jobs but i just pass high school i trying very hard to get work but failing bad and i need help so would you please get the new extens out please

Why does 4-H have to depend on MSUE?

Posted by Cyndi Peasley, Manton, MI - Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 8:51 a.m.

Most of the comments here supporting MSUE are to protect 4-H. Why does the 4-H program have to depend on MSUE? Why can't 4-H be a self funded program independent of MSUE? 4-H would just need some form of support for volunteer screening and a place to report activities and make sure that 4-H program requirements and ideals are maintained. In the last few years 4-H started a membership fee program. Surely those funds could be used to provide the support needed to let the program be independent. Beyond that 4-H has a very strong volunteer base through 4-H Councils, committees and clubs. 4-H could survive if the volunteers are given authority to keep the program alive.
I do not know how boy scouts and girl scouts is organized but I have never heard their program threatened by budget cuts. Why can't 4-H be the same way?
In our county, Missaukee, we ran a lot of our 4-H program through our 4-H Council and clubs with very little support from our extension office for a year. Then they hired a new 4-H program agent and we were told we were no longer allowed to do anything without their approval. We tried that but we were apparently on the bottom of thier priority list and nothing got done. Now the extension office dissolved our 4-H Council, took the funds we had, and upset a lot of volunteers and they ended up leaving the 4-H program. We contacted the MSU representative in Lansing but never received a reply to our concerns.
So again I ask why 4-H cannot be a self-funded program that is independent of MSUE? I strongly believe in the 4-H program and believe it does provide a very beneficial program to youth that helps them develop social, self confidence, and leadership skills. I just do not think it has to depend on MSUE. Every few years we end up having the program threatened at budget time. And I am sure this problem will continue in the future unless something is done to make the program non-dependant on our state budget.
MSUE in other counties probably does provide valuable services to their ocmmunities and deserve support for those programs. However, lets get the 4-H program out of this problem by making it self funded and independent.

No More Cuts to Education or Youth Programs!

Posted by N. Marlatt, Schoolcraft, MI - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 3:45 p.m.

Education is the most valuable asset any state could have. It seems that Granholm has already made it clear that education in Michigan is not valued. Cuts to schools and per student capita and now this- cutting the MSUE and all its programs. How on earth is this state ever supposed to recover from the economic crisis it is falling ever so deeper into? Why not stop the pay of all the legislators in Lansing? After all- they have NOT been able to do their job. There is no balanced budget, no new jobs have been created for those that are NOT in the migrant worker groups, no improvements in the economy. I thought, Ms. Granholm, we were to be "blown away" by this time. Oh- wait- we are blown away by the current crisis our state is in. Is that what that statement meant? 4H was my life as a youth. I would not be where I am today had it not been for my 4H experiences. I attended MSU and graduated from the Dept. of ANR. 4H gave me the confidence builders I needed to succeed in life. Granholm- you are only hurting our youth and the future of this state.

4H

Posted by Computer Guy, marquette - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 10:38 a.m.

Also, what the heck is 4H? I grew up in the UP, and have heard of it-not sure what it is. Something about animals i think maybe.....

Never heard of it

Posted by Computer Guy, Marquette - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 10:34 a.m.

I'm a parent of 2 small kids and didn't know MSU-E had anything to do with anything. I thought it was a place to sign up for College classes or something

Devestating cuts

Posted by Y McCool, Kalkaska - Tuesday, October 27, 2009 at 8:26 a.m.

I understand that we are in devastating budget times. But, it is at this time more than ever that families and young children will be looking to community service providers. MSU Extension is known in our community for home visitation services, nutrition services, after-school care, training, agricultural services, 4-H, and youth programming. Eliminating Extensions means the elimination of opportunity for our children as well as our economic future in Michigan. There is a direct correlation between high quality programs for children and economic prosperity. It is essential that we start looking at our outdated tax structures and find ways to increase revenue in our state.

A good place to start!

Posted by John Taylor, Cadillac, MI - Monday, October 26, 2009 at 4:49 p.m.

I have had all I can take of the consistantly poor quality and self-serving nature of the decisions eminating from Lansing. Party politics and special interests have completely drowned out the voices of the honest, hard working men and women of Michigan. Sadly this is but one more bad decision in a long series that have negatively effected ever larger populations in our state (check out the quiet changes over the last couple of years in the state's Department of Military and Veteran's Affairs). Cutting higher education funding in a state struggling to re-invent itself after the economic blow we have just sustained, while simultaneously cutting spending that would aid agriculture, currently the fastest growing economic sector in our state, is beyond bad decision making, it is sabotage!!! We should withhold the pay and benefits of every state politician and thier respective staffs until this situation as a whole is rectified. That would be a good place to start balancing this budget!!! It is time for us to start the petitions that will MAKE our voices heard in Lansing!

unemploymentexrenseion

Posted by linda sharpe, fentonmi48430 - Monday, October 26, 2009 at 2:15 p.m.

i wish there get off there putes and get another extense out for the ones that there unemployment been outover a month or so if there show that there been trying to get work and faid sixty and over as a hard time i onoly done one thing that work in bindery butting documents together jobs not here yet so stop this holding it up please pass iti;m like the others i have to surportmy self with no help so please get it out

WTF

Posted by T Bloomquist, Leelanau - Monday, October 26, 2009 at 10:14 a.m.

This type of political stalemate is happening all over our country. Too many of our elected officials are not cooperating; they are not working for our common good. Instead, they are towing a party line, protecting their own positions, caring only for their own welfare, and not caring about what happens to the people who elected them to serve our state(s) and our country. The possible demise of MSU-E is just another example of how non-cooperating, non-thinking, non-caring individuals can put all of us at risk.

No Cut to MSU-E or other programs that support our community and our children

Posted by C. Bloomquist, Leelanau County - Monday, October 26, 2009 at 8:02 a.m.

I want to echo the concern and in some case rancor of the posted remarks. I also feel frustrated to have programs for families and children being held as pawns to the political whim of our legislators. Isn't high time that those in office start to act like mature adults and begin to cooperate with each other to benefit Michigan's communities and those they represent.
The really interesting part of all this, is that as we cut programas such as MSU-E, preschool education, childcare subsidy, public health, public education, we are only hurting ourselves and our future. We are walking a very precarious path, one in which the interests of those in power and those with wealth are valued beyond the greater good of the general population and its communities. I am fearful we will wake up to this reality too late and find ourselves moving into a bleak and dismal future.

4h

Posted by michelle bernhardt, benzie county - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 8:32 a.m.

msu extension does a great benefit for so many people my son wantead to play soccer this year and i twas through 4-h i dont have the money to pay for it if it werent for 4-h he wouldnt be playing. im a single mom
trying to go to college and i dont have a job i cant even get all of my school paid for so im in the whole already. please do something about the budget lets slove our problems how did they get so bad

WHAT ARE YOU THINKING JENNY!

Posted by DISGUSTED WITH OUR GOVERNMENT, TRAVERSE CITY, MICHIGAN - Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 8:12 a.m.

I cannot believe that Granholm is considering eliminating the community outreach arm of MSU!. Doesn't she realize that our state is made up of communities and our communities are made up of PEOPLE!?! In times of economic instability the evidence shows that child abuse and neglect, alcoholism, and other societal ills typically increase, therefore, it makes more sense to increase community outreach programs--not eliminate them! The Parents As Teachers program is a research based parenting education program that is uniquely delivered in people's homes. Many of the citizens who participate in this program have risk factors such as isolation, single parenting, teen parenting, a history of familial abuse and neglect, etc... These are our most vulnerable citizens! These days families are also much more isolated than 50 years ago-they don't always have the family support systems that most families used to have. The Parents As Teachers community play groups are instrumental in assisting new parents in making community connections, whether it be linking to other parents or linking to healthcare providers and community resources. Research proves that spending money on prevention saves a bundle on later intervention! For every $1 spent $17 is saved! It is vitally important for parents to have appropriate expectations of their children and many new parents and at risk parents don't know what appropriate expectations are! The parent educators at MSU extension teach those expectations and skills and the evidence shows that it makes a difference!
And to think that she would consider eliminating 4H which has taught leadership skills to so many of our youth!?! These are our state's future leaders! And agriculture!?! Doesn't she realize that this is the economic foundation of our state!?! Lansing needs to start doing its job! I don't know of anyone who gets away with not doing their job for very long without consequences. Our government is crippling this state. How can we expect today's higher education students to stick around the state of Michigan if their is nothing worth sticking around for? They are going to take their degrees and go elsewhere! Jenny needs to get a clue--maybe she and her staff should take a pay cut.

Fire Them!

Posted by Concerned Parent, Traverse City - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 4:43 p.m.

It is really sad when the best our elected officials can do to balance the budget is to hold our educational programs hostage in order to gain control over their personal and political agendas.

While this is nothing new, it seems to have the desired effect of creating panic in the hearts of every parent, potential parent, extension volunteers and educators, who know the value of these programs.

Here we are WEEKS after the budget (by law) should have been balanced, throwing around new threats to more of our educational programming as well as our agricultural programs. Oh, and then adding thousands more to our state unemployment levels. If we did not do our jobs, we would be fired. So maybe WE THE PEOPLE ought to fire a few people who refuse to do their jobs on election day. We are watching you!

Save 4H it is great for the youth

Posted by Concerned 4H Leader, Traverse city - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 4:01 p.m.

I am a 4H Volunteer and my family has a small hobby farm, MSU Extension is our resource for Agriculture and 4H. I have spent a big chunk of my life involved in the 4H program as a member and leader. When I got the call from the MSU Extension Office that they may shut down I became ill. I cannot image not having 4H anymore. What 4H dose for area youth is worth more to the state then to shut it down all together. 4H has done so much for me and the youth in my club and community. Its teaches the youth so many things that will help them 20 years from now make Michigan a better place from leadership and responsibility to courage and self esteem to find ideas and continue their education. This is and education program that needs to stick around for years to come. 4H also offers programs for kids that my not be able to play sports or play a musical interment due to a disability but they can always find something in 4H, no child is ever left behind. But if the Governor goes through with this veto a lot of kids will be left behind they will fall through the cracks and I think that sucks. She has said that the youth of Michigan is our future but then she cuts everything the youth are involved in. I could write a book on what 4H dose for Michigan and the youth in it, so to see Jenny take this away from us just makes me sick. I really never thought I would see the day that 4H might be taken away, I always thought that when I had kids they would be involved in this program like I was. But with one person with one ink pen this could be taken away. I will remember this every time I vote for the people that are suppose to be fighting for me and the people of Michigan, because to me it seems they are only thinking of themselves. Because what MSU Extension does for the state is way more then the money they think they will be saving my shutting it down.

There's still hope!

Posted by A citizen with hope! and determination!, Traverse City - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 3:40 p.m.

This isn't over yet folks! The house can override her decision if she vetoes the funding. Be sure to contact your representative as well as the Governor's office to say NO to the end of Extension and Ag Experiment Station and ensure that your representative knows where their constituents stand on this important issue!

What is the Governer thinking?

Posted by Devastated Citizen, Grass Lake - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 3:05 p.m.

Unbelievable… what is Governor Granholm thinking, is she on drugs? Cutting out the MSU Extension plan, eliminating 700 jobs, affecting 82 counties in our state? I think our Governor should wake up and feel the impacts she is making with her budget cuts. People in state are out of work and for those who are working are praying each day they will not lose their job. Cutting the MSU Extension program will have an effect across all of Michigan. SHAME on our Governor for even considering cutting this program. How much more damage will she have on the citizens of this state and how many more people will leave because there is no attraction to stay living here, nor would they come back to visit. Shame on our Governor and Representatives for cutting this program! ( When voting next year, remember to not vote for existing representatives for allowing this to happen!)

Shocked

Posted by Elizabeth Garthe-Shiner, Northport/East Lansing - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 2:45 p.m.

Cutting the budget here creates such a domino effect- I don't understand how this could possibly be beneficial to anyone in our state. The MSU Extension provides funding to programs that create jobs for hundreds of people, after school programs, agriculture research- things that citizens of Michigan depend on. The MSU extension program is effects too many people in Michigan to just get rid of it altogether.

Save MSU Extension

Posted by M. Entrekin, Interlochen, MI - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 2:32 p.m.

MSU Extension and, specifically, Parents as Teachers is an enriching treasure for the community. I moved to MI last fall and had our baby four weeks later. Without Parents as Teachers programs (playgroups and home visits) I would have been completely isolated at home with a new baby. Not only have I gained knowledge and parenting skills through their programs, I have also become part of the community. Thank you for the fantastic job you do.

Please do not take away MSU Extension. It is more than adding to the quality of life, it is forming the foundations of the community!

Held Hostage

Posted by Another Concerned Citizen, Grand Traverse County resident - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 2:32 p.m.

It seems to me that one side wants to raise taxes to balance the state budget and the other side wants to cut programs and/or their budgets to balance the state budget.

I think it's time we let the politicians who are supposed to work for us & who are suppose to actually care about families, and are supposed to be able to put their own agendas aside, know that we don't appreciate being used as pawns in their political games. Holding families hostage by creating fear about their children's education is wrong! Eliminating programs such as MSU Extension and the Ag and Experiment Stations, whose mission is to help families improve their lives by providing educational opportunity, teaching families about being good stewards of the land and water and providing support and research results that can assist our state's farming families is wrong. Closing research facilities that support one of the still viable industries in Michigan, agriculture, is not only wrong but short sited.

I thought we were suppose to be supporting & bringing jobs to Michigan, not cutting them or forcing our valuable Extension Educators to seek other positions, possibly in other states. Since all of the other states still have Extension offices connected to their Land Grant University, I'm assuming that out of state would be a good place to search for employment. Let's continue the exedus of the educated from Michigan to other states! Once these educators are gone, we will be hard put to replace them even if at a later time we decide reopen the Extension Offices. Even if that happened, it's not clear if the federal, county and grant dollars currently allocated would still be available.

Plus, how does eliminating Michigan's Extension and Agriculture Research Stations help the economy? Hundreds of educators and researchers employed by MSU will be added to the unemployment rolls or like I mention earlier could leave the state. Thus, we lose their contributions to our tax roles, both in income and property taxes as well as their knowledge and expertise. Office buildings that were receiving rent will become vacant, another loss in revenue. The county support staff and program assistants will also go on the unemployment rolls. More losses. Revenues to the state will be further depleted as 1) we could potentially lose the revenue created by purchases made by Extension staff 2) educators will not be creating and offering educational programs that bring Michigan residents together thus the downward sprial effect of lost revenue for gas, food, & parking that people pay while attending programs 4) 4-Hr's provide a majority of the draw to county fairs, that revenue will be lost 5) thousands of the states children will lose a program that builds character and community values, 6)their will be a loss of revenue to day care providers that educators and county staff pay for child care.....the list is endless. Not helpful for Michigan's economy.

I'm not an economist, but it might very well cost the state more to close Extension after the dust all clears than they will save by closing it.

Do No Close the Extension and Experimental Station Offices.

I say NO to closing Extension. I say NO to closing the Ag Experiment Stations and I say NO to holding families hostage for their children's education.

MSU Extension is a BARGAIN for the state, don't eliminate it

Posted by Concerned Citizen, Traverse City - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 1:18 p.m.

I am shocked to hear that the Governor is considering eliminating funding for MSU Extension and the Agricultural Research Station. All of MSUE's programs improve the lives of families, whether from protecting the water they drink, increasing production and safety of food they eat, educating them about nutrition, parenting, etc. In addition, the money the state puts in to Extension is far surpassed by money garnered from the Federal government and grants. What a shame it would be for our state to lose out on these funds forever to "fix" a budget shortfall this year. Michigan already lags behind most other states in Federal dollars received and to throw that money away makes no sense. The governor and the legislature need to stop playing games with each other and do the job we, the people who pay their salaries, sent them to Lansing to do, and if that means more taxes to keep us going, then say so and get it done.

MSU Extension Faces Closure - Save 4-H !

Posted by 4-H Leader Michigan, Petoskey - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 11:24 a.m.

Governor Granholm - like all other governors - accepted federal stimulus money on the condition that they WOULD NOT CUT higher education. Well, she took the money and did what she wanted to do anyway. Shouldn't our legislators - state & national - be the watchdogs and make sure she does what is legally required ? It would be a shame if she went to jail. :( It would be an evey bigger shame to cut MSU Extension and the 4-H youth programs. What that program does for our youth is un-matched anywhere else. We prepare them for the future by providing leadership opportunities, career exploration, skill deveopment, decision making and something many kids don't get enough of, FUN. Many commenters are correct. She's using MSUE Extension (and the "Green Wave" that clogged up the e-mail system 3 years ago) as a ploy to get what she wants -an increase in revenue. Well folks, as much as that makes me cringe, it's going to happen. The money just isn't there for the state to operate on. Taxes will go up no matter what the Governor does with her mighty pen. But I encourage everyone to call and e-mail your egislators and tell them how you feel about the programs of MSU Extension. It does work. The switchboard and the e-mail server at the Capitol crashed 3 years ago. Let's do it again ! ! !

Save our History & the MSU Reputation

Posted by C. Eschbach, Presque Isle County - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 11:13 a.m.

If the Governor eliminates MSU Extension -- Michigan will be the only state in the nation to NOT have a university with comprehensive land-grant programs.

All universities engage in research and teaching, but the nation's more than 100 land-grant colleges and universities, have a third critical mission—extension. "Extension" means "reaching out," and—along with teaching and research—land-grant institutions "extend" their resources, solving public needs with college or university resources through non-formal, non-credit programs.

The Morrill Act of 1862 established land-grant universities to educate citizens in agriculture, home economics, mechanical arts, and other practical professions. Extension was formalized in 1914, with the Smith-Lever Act.

The reputation of MSU will be damaged, it will take years to restore the faith of federal and foundation funders, as well as private donors. World-class scientists and valuable community educators will LOSE THEIR JOBS and leave MSU for institutions with more supportive state funding!

Unemployment

Posted by GVSU Extension Student, TC - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 10:56 a.m.

Who cuts education funding!? Education determines the quality of our future. This move will leave hundreds unemployed and take away the chance for hundreds more to become educated in order to become employed in a professional field. A whole $127 per student? What is it now?? I know not much. This is destructive to a positive future in Michigan, which is why as soon as I receive my degree from the GVSU extension right here in TC, I am taking it and fleeing cross country far from Granholm. While President Obama is encouraging "going back to college," which I think is great, Granholm is compromising Michigan's educational value and for some one like me who can pack up and leave following my academic achievement, I will be doing just that.

Political Pawns

Posted by Kenneth Smith, Bellaire, MI - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 10:52 a.m.

Please realize that our Governor is just trying to find a way for the general population to ask her to raise taxes (or otherwise raise revenue) so that the Schools, MSUE and the Experiment stations can be saved. It is unfortunate that these resulting political games are thrown upon our families and youth in hopes of stopping a downward spiral of diminishing revenues, increasing expenses and devastating budget cuts. I might agree that we need to find NEW ways of increasing revenues (how about a 7.5 cent State Sales Tax). I would not agree that using MSUE and our schools is the way to do it. Our legislators make very good salaries. I would like to see them all earn it as opposed to flinging threats of total devastation via cuts to MSUE and our schools. The message I have is simple; stop playing games and do your work. Make the tough decisions about new revenue streams, and let’s move on. MSU Extension, the Experiment Stations and the schools have vital work to do.

Saving Our Souls

Posted by Susan Steele, Interlochen - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 9:07 a.m.

If not for understanding the natural and nourishing properties of our land - what else! The MSU Extension services of Northwest Michigan teaches, mentors, informs all of us to be better stewards of our land and our well being. The professionals that are part of these necessary service are powerful, well versed in their disciplines and approachable for all questions, concerns and collaborations.

The MSU Extension services are vital to the survival of our community.

MSU Extension funding cuts...

Posted by Concerned Citizen, Michigan - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 9:04 a.m.

If Governor Granholm is allowed to line item veto funding for MSU Extension we will lose some of the most important programs to our entire state! There are 82 county offices and 17 research stations across the state that will close immediately with over 3,000 employees that will be directly affected by these closures which would be additional millions of state income taxes being lost not to mention the toll it will take on the Unemployment system. The program closure will affect everyone across the state of Michigan because there will no longer be a 4-H program which would affect over 200,000 youth and tens of thousands of adults; there will no longer be a Family Consumer Science program which helps everyone with budgeting, financial counseling, parent education, daycare education, food preservation, and many more things; there will no longer be a Family Nutrition Program which helps food stamp eligible families with healthy meal planning on a tight budget; there will no longer be a Breast Feeding Initiative which gives peer support to breastfeeding mothers; there will no longer be a community Way to Grow home visitor who helps families with children 0-5 through home visits and playgroups; and there will no longer be any agriculture support to our local farmers. Without Extension, you will no longer have a Master Gardener program, you will not have easy access to soil tests, you can no longer easily obtain research based information, it will be even more difficult to get pesticide certification information, and there are many more things that Extension does that will no longer be available. I believe that the Governor is using MSU Extension as a leverage tool to get funding for projects that she would like to have funded and has singled out MSU Extension from other higher education institutions because of it. We need to band together to fight this from happening!

Shame on Fact Finder

Posted by David Hendricks, Manistee - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 9:02 a.m.

First of all - I think cutting MSU Extension is a terrible idea. It is a fantastic program and should be preserved along with education, prisons, etc. My frustration is that the Governor is receiving the TOTAL blame for the budget crisis. The news media points to the governor and says that all the cuts are her fault: she can only approve or disapprove (veto) what LEGISLATURE sends to her. Eliminating MSU Extension and all of the other CUTS came from the Legislature. I wish the news media would emphasize that point rather than place all the blame on the governor.

MSU Extension

Posted by Keegan Norris, Traverse City - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 9:01 a.m.

I think that this is stupid of the Governor to want to close the MSU Extension. Without it, there are several programs that benefit the community that would be lost. Last time I checked, the COMMUNITIES in this state was what WE ARE ALL working on together to BRING TOGETHER AND HELP EACH OTHER OUT!!! KEEP THE MSU EXTENSION OFFICES!

SO MUCH MORE

Posted by Michele Barton, Grayling - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 7:59 a.m.

MSU Extension is a vital part of our comunity. How can the governor cut such a great organization? MSU Extension offers many programs for our community. It will be sad to lose the 4-H clubs, parenting classes, nutrition education, grandparents classes, senior support, soil and gardening support and all of the other programs MSU Extension offers Grayling..Call now and voice your support!!!

Cutting 4-H - A Disservice to our Youth

Posted by Debra Turcott-Johnson, Onaway - Friday, October 23, 2009 at 2:05 a.m.

MSU-E covers many areas that are PRACTICAL and necessary. My experience was with the 4-H program. It is really hard to imagine the 4-H program not existing anymore!
I was one of many 4-H kids when I was younger. SOME OF MY FINEST DAYS WERE SPENT IN 4-H. School was OK but I was not into sports and was not musically inclined (so no band or choir). For me and others our outlet was the 4-H program. I had some exceptional leaders who REALLY CARED about us. For many young people school was the place where they received positive and encouraging feedback from teachers and coaches. For others 4-H was the place for positive feedback and encouragement from our Leaders and each other. Most of the kids in the 4-H groups were friendly and nonjudgmental. It did not matter who you were, what your parents did for a living, what kind of clothes you wore there was no "in" crowd to fit into. Everyone was part of the group. Everyone got along well. We learned much and had great times. 4-H helped to shape me to be a more outgoing and confident person. I learned that I was not "dumb" and that I actually had intelligence. I felt that my thoughts and opinions were listened to and valued. This acceptance can be helpful in developing a young person's self esteem.
Sometimes Kids don't get the love and support they need at home. I did see them get love and support in the 4-H program. Our leaders were always happy to see us and were glad to talk to us. We were able to go to them if we were having a personal problem knowing what was discussed would be kept in confidence.
I feel that there is no NUMERICAL VALUE for what many 4-H members gain and take into their adult lives from being in the 4-H program. Cutting the 4-H program would be a great DISSERVICE to OUR YOUTH!!

MSU Extension is an AMAZING parenting tool.

Posted by Miriam Pico-Benghauser, Traverse City, Michigan - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 10:17 p.m.

As a stay-at-home mother of two children, I have relied on MSU Extension and it's WONDERFUL staff to help me through many of the ins and outs of parenting. I have come to them for parenting classes, early childhood classes, nutrition classes, car seat checks, mom and baby playgroups and "Parents as Teachers" meetings (one on one training at home). I've found this organization to be the most AMAZING parenting tool that this community has to offer, and I've learned so much from them and become a better parent because of them. The staff is caring, thorough, intelligent and friendly. The programs are priceless. I can not say enough about this amazing organization and I have already written my letter to Governor Granholm expressing my concern about the fact that they want to close it down. I hope other concerned moms and dads will do the same. Thank you! MIRIAM

4-H is very important to my family!

Posted by Kimberley Kroupa, Cedar - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 10:10 p.m.

Unreal! What else will Jenny and her cronies throw at the people of Michigan! By eliminating MSU Extension they not only displace many jobs, but ruin 100's if not 1000's of kids 4-H hopes and dreams. My Stepson has completed his first year of 4-H this year in the poutlry division. He was so proud of his accomplishments. He is looking forward to raising a Goat for this coming year. Seeing what 4-H has done through his eyes is amazing. My husband and his siblings and their children have all belonged to 4H. They all have learned and put to use the lessons that were taught to them. They have learned responsiblitly, respect, and what it takes to raise an animal among so many other things. To cancel/close this program is a disservice to all of these children and their families. My daughter is two years old and loves animals. I have dreams of her joining 4H someday as I know she would benefit from it like others in our family have.

Second- MSU Extension has also been a huge part of our life over the past two years. They sponsor a wonderful playgroup, one day a week, from Birth to two. We have met wonderful families and created new friendships that may never have happened elsewise. We have learned many new things from baby massage techniques to home and personal safety issues. The wonderful women who run the playgroups are very helpful to new moms(and old ones) and offer support and advice. It breaks my heart to see this program possibly not exist after this. What has this state come to? It's no wonder that families are leaving Michigan. What is there to stay for?

4-H is very important to my family!

Posted by Kimberley Kroupa, Cedar - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 10:05 p.m.

Unreal! What else will Jenny and her cronies throw at the people of Michigan! By eliminating MSU Extension they not only displace many jobs, but ruin 100's if not 1000's of kids 4-H hopes and dreams. My Stepson has completed his first year of 4-H this year in the poutlry division. He was so proud of his accomplishments. He is looking forward to raising a Goat for this coming year. Seeing what 4-H has done through his eyes is amazing. My husband and his siblings and their children have all belonged to 4H. They all have learned and put to use the lessons that were taught to them. They have learned responsiblitly, respect, and what it takes to raise an animal among so many other things. To cancel/close this program is a disservice to all of these children and their families. My daughter is two years old and loves animals. I have dreams of her joining 4H someday as I know she would benefit from it like others in our family have.

Second- MSU Extension has also been a huge part of our life over the past two years. They sponsor a wonderful playgroup, one day a week, from Birth to two. We have met wonderful families and created new friendships that may never have happened elsewise. We have learned many new things from baby massage techniques to home and personal safety issues. The wonderful women who run the playgroups are very helpful to new moms(and old ones) and offer support and advice. It breaks my heart to see this program possibly not exist after this. What has this state come to? It's no wonder that families are leaving Michigan. What is there to stay for?

Another Closure

Posted by Citizen Gonebroke, Traverse City - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 8:52 p.m.

Do no raise my taxes or cut any of the benefits I receive. I am self centered and have voted for Granholm and her band of thieves.
Cut the budget that will affect someone else and raise taxes on the achievers.

cuts

Posted by sick of it all, Michigan - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 8:29 p.m.

Granholm and the other goons down in Lansing will never get any kind of clue about how important this and other programs to people. I understand that they need to balance the budget, but to cut this and to cut more funding to schools and other things are the stupidest ideas I have ever heard of. I guess that Obama needs to step in and do the same thing to this state as they are doing with the companies that took those loans and tell them that they need to cut their wages and things like that by 90%. You know if that happened, the budget would be balanced in a heartbeat and the programs wouldn't be cut. But until that happens and until they get out of office, Michigan will continue to go down the drain.

A concerned mom

Posted by Sue Coffin, Traverse City - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 8:19 p.m.

I truly hope that the MSU Extension programmed is not eliminated. The early childhood support is vital in this community. There are many moms that need the help and guidance that the MSU Extension offers. Discontinuing this program will ultimately cost the state more in the end. The playgroups help with educating new moms about other community services, nutrition, post-partum depression and countless other topics.

MSU-E

Posted by Kevin Stubenvoll, Gaylord - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 6:21 p.m.

I can not believe the people in Lansing are so far out of touch with the communities around the state of Michigan. MSU-E has been a part of my life since I was a kid in 4-H. I used MSU-E for my Master Gardener and Advanced Master Gardener certifications. I started a small orchard in the mid 90's for some retirement income and used the extension for soil tests and problem solving. They have been invaluable. I guess my biggest rant would be that this administration (Granholm)has destroyed our manufacturing base and now they look like they are going after agriculture. The cost of $64 million with a return of well over a billion taxable dollars makes MSU-E almost self sefficient, it just doestn't make sense to put another nail in Michigans coffin.

Don't shut down 4-H please!

Posted by Morgan Burns, Traverse City, Michigan - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 6:20 p.m.

I have been a part of the 4-H program as along as I can remember and if Governer Grandholm shuts down the program not only me but everyone with suffer from it. The program is not only a great way to learn responsibility but to bond with family and friends.

msu extension closure:

Posted by Go Green, bitely - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 5:56 p.m.

What I can't understand is how do you generate more income by closing doors. First it was the prisons, and now MSU Extension offices? This governor has no backbone what so ever. If she did, and cared enough she would fight tooth and nail for all the jobs in the State of Michigan. Start to take some responsibility for her actions stand up and get positive and quit letting everything go.I'm sure shes going to need help somewhere down the line, I believe its called job security? Don't expect any help from us if you drop the ball.

This would be the biggest mistake yet!

Posted by Another Concerned Citizen, Traverse City - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 5:49 p.m.

The services provided by MSU extension are vital to our region's and our state's economy. Now is not the time to cut this important program. Agriculture will save this state - invest in it now!

Concerned Citizen of Michigan

Posted by Bill Stephans, Northern Michigan - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 4:29 p.m.

Does Governor Granholm understand that agriculture is the only stable and growing industry in this state and that it is a 71+ billion dollar industry annually. She talks about jobs creation, growth for Michigan, and yet she continues to threaten the research and development arm of this industry. The governor also talks about protecting Michigan's children and most vunerable. What about the hundreds of thousands of kids in 4-H and the poor families that receive nutrition education. I truly hope our elected officials can see beyond partisanship and do whats good for Michigan and stop this.

Huge Loss!!!

Posted by Concern Citizen, Traverse City - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 3:38 p.m.

If the Governor shutters the Agricultural Stations she will put an end to research that requires multi-year monitoring. That will be a huge loss in Agricultural Science and a huge loss for the farmers of Michigan. My mom used to say, "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face". I believe that is what our Governor intends to do.

MSU extension offices in jeopardy

Posted by faye bancroft, Evart,Michigan - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 3:22 p.m.

First, let me say that as an "old" alumni of 4-H, I wholeheartedly believe in its premise as an institution of higher learning. Not necessarily book learning; but the more important lessons we all need to survive in this world. I grew up in a very small, rural area, without so much as a WMCA or even a community program to get involved in. 4-H taught me to try harder as an individual and work with others.It gave me something to look forward to, and I learned a lot. Now that my son has gone through the ranks of the programs and has gone on to college, I can see in him the strength and fortitude that 4-H, in part, has instilled in him. I can't imagine taking this away from our youth. Don't forget,Governor, that these "kids" are the future of our state!!!!!

Hard on kids and parents

Posted by Ted Gruenwald, Suttons Bay - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 2:14 p.m.

A not so small piece of this pie is an after school ( and summer ) program called "Kids Club". This is sponsored by 4H and allows kids to be supervised and do something constructive with their time until parents can pick them up. What happens with this program. Un-supervised kids at home or on the streets ?? The 4H programs that I've helped with all teach kids to be better citizens, how to make the best life choices, how to help others, and lead them toward a solid career path. What now. The kids of today are the backbone of our future witch is looking very grave.

MSU Extension Faces Closure ! WE MUST SAVE 4-H !

Posted by 4-H Member Disappointed, Michigan - Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 1:56 p.m.

What a terrible thing to do to our kids. It's all about playing politics to get our way, save a buck and spend 10 more. The Governor will be very sorry if she goes through with a line-item veto. The green and white wave will show itself in force and she may have to go in hiding. PEOPLE: Call and e-mail your Senator and representatives. They must know that this is unacceptable and we will remember what they did - and didn't do for us - next election time.