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Judge gives statement to TV6

Monday, July 27, 2009 at 3:53 p.m.

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SCHOOLCRAFT COUNTY --
Tuesday July 28, 5:15 a.m.

Statement from Judge Nebel to TV6:

"I made a series of bad and inappropriate decisions and I accept full responsibility for those decisions and will address this matter in a straightforward manner.  There's no justification for my behavior and I am prepared to face the consequences of my actions."
Judge Charles Nebel

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Tuesday July 27, 4:15 p.m.

An Upper Michigan judge was in jail over the weekend after being arrested for operating a motor while intoxicated.

Alger and Schoolcraft County Probate Judge Charles Nebel was stopped Friday night around 9 p.m.

Michigan State Police from the Newberry Post were in pursuit of Nebel, who was traveling at speeds in excess of 100 miles an hour through Luce County.  Troopers finally caught Judge Nebel in Schoolcraft County.

Nebel was arrested after showing a blood alcohol content above .08.  That's above the legal limit for being drunk.

Nebel was taken to the Schoolcraft County Jail Friday night.

Schoolcraft County officials are asking the attorney general's office to handle their portion of the case since Nebel is a sitting judge there.

There's no word on any court appearances at this time.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America....

Posted by yooper roach, munising - Monday, August 31, 2009 at 2:39 p.m.

I would like to add to the person that thinks that the comment section is unfair, and should not be allowed.
This is everything that nebel supposedly swore to protect, remember, the Constitution, freedom of speech, ring a bell!

Am sorry that my last comment was taken from U'all

Posted by yooper roach, munising - Monday, August 31, 2009 at 2:20 p.m.

Ahh.. tis quite true that Mr. Nebel is just a person like the rest of us. But, the trail that he has decided to walk in his life was his choice. So all of the people that are feeling bad about all of the negative publicity that this has brought onto himself and his family....DON'T. I do believe that he is the one that accepted the position as a state representative, if he didn't feel that he was capable of representing, maybe he should of thought twice about accepting this position. My heart goes out to his family.
It is true that Mr. Nebel has done alot in the community, men, woman, and children alike, but what is he teaching not only his but all of our children, that it's ok, some people are above the law.
The fact that he has done alot in OUR community will always be remembered, but that is not a defence for breaking the law.
Being a poor man, i guess that i should really hold my tongue, because i don't know how the law works on the other side of the tracks.
I know what I have seen, and have no faith in the legal system of alger county whatsoever.
And for those of you who doubt what i have seen, please don't make me have to spill the beans publicly, it would be a very lengthy comment and i type slow, so save me and everybody else the agony.
More and more jobs require valid driver licsence, and a clean record, remember that this comes from a poor man who's jobs are very inconsequencual in the grand scheme of the state of michigan.
I really hate to say this, but being in the position that he chose to accept, he should be held to a higher standard.

JUST REMEMBER PEOPLE OF ALGER COUNTY, MR CHARLIE NEBEL WAS APPOINTED BY THE STATE THIS TIME.
WHEN IS THE NEXT ELECTION?

teacher

Posted by tom winchester, engadine - Thursday, August 13, 2009 at 11:35 a.m.

This judge should not get any more of a sentence as anyone else. I have been involved with the court system with my 16 year old son. This is my first experience on the bad side of the law and it has taught me that there are some strange things going on in our U.P. court systems. I am willing to bet that this judge will not get much. There will be some tough talk and he will take full responsibility for his actions. Everyone in the U.P. court system knows each other and they will protect each other.

You can't be serious!!!

Posted by Kris Johnson, Mqt. MI - Wednesday, August 12, 2009 at 8:52 p.m.

The first comment posted about this story is from a person who states "There but for the grace of God, that could be anyone of us" and we should "cut him a break". You can NOT be serious. That most certainly would NOT be me. I am not stupid enough to drink and drive let alone drive in excess of 100 mph THEN run from the police. He not only should be held accountable, he should receive a harsher sentence then most because of his position in the community. He knows better. He would probably throw the book at Joe Citizen for behaving in such a reckless manner, so not only should he get the book thrown at him, but he should also lose his judgeship. He had a responsibility to the community to behave accordingly.

Food For Thought

Posted by Food For, Thought - Thursday, August 06, 2009 at 6:57 p.m.

What I am reading here is that the big fear was that "someone could have been killed or injured." And I agree with that assessment. Thankfully, for everyone, that is not a part of this story...

What intrigues me is that there are so many layers here and many, many issues that are just fascinating to think about/discuss. A veritable playground of "what if" scenarios, if you will...

A couple thoughts (using my logic):

I submit that accidents kill/injure people, period end of discussion.

The question then becomes, What causes accidents? The answer to that can ONLY BE that the operator lost control of the vehicle.

Which begs the next question, What happened that caused the operator to lose control of the vehicle?

The list of potential actions that could cause the operator to lose control of the vehicle is very, very long.

That being the case, there is empirical evidence that shows that the decision making of people who are under the infulence of alcohol or drugs is impaired. And if your decision making is impaired, it follows that the alcohol or drugs were the "cause" of the accident.

Think about it...whenever you hear of any serious accident, the VERY FIRST QUESTION that is asked is "Was he/she/they drinking?"

If we accept that drinking is the "cause" of the accident, then how can all of the other accidents and resulting deaths and injuries that occur by vehicles operated by people that are NOT UNDER the influence of alcohol or drugs be explained? In fact, there are MANY more fatal accidents that ARE NOT alcohol related, than the other way around.

Since the majority of injury and fatal accidents happen without alcohol being a factor, then there have to be another factor(s) responsible for those accidents, does there not? In that regard, I think that the greatest "danger" was that the judge was driving at what has been alleged to be an excessive rate of speed. What caused him to do that? Was it having 3 beers? Or 10 beers? What if he had 0 beers? What then? Is he just reckless by nature? Was it an exception due to an emergency and he just happened to be caught, or is it a pattern of behavior/actions and it was inevitable that he would be caught?

Or "what if" he swerved to avoid a deer and rolled his SUV, and killed his passenger, what would have "caused" the accident then?:
1. The deer?
2. The beer?
3. The driver?
4. The design of the road?
5. Faulty vehicle design?
6. Poor seat belt/air bag design?
7. The guy who planted a tree near the road?
8. The company that installed a telephone pole near the road?
9. All of the above?
10. Other?

We (society) have decided that to protect the public good, we shall not operate a motor vehicle with a BAC over .08, and we shall not operate that vehicle at a speed greater than 55 mph. Of these two safety standards, which is the most important? How would you weigh them? Thoughts???

Give him a break

Posted by Mick Dee, Marquette - Wednesday, August 05, 2009 at 11:23 p.m.

But for the grace of God go anyone of us.

Nebel....

Posted by former yooper, the L.P. - Wednesday, August 05, 2009 at 5:39 p.m.

What ever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"??? Why cast stones when the man hasn't been convicted of anything yet???? Seriously people, think before you speak.

Judge??

Posted by Dan Thompson, Munising - Wednesday, August 05, 2009 at 4:31 p.m.

To those who say it does not affect his job I ask you; What is a judges job? Isn't it JUDGEment? Did he not show VERY poor judgemendt? Can you just turn judgement on for work and off after hours?

Seriously

Posted by R S, Detroit - Wednesday, August 05, 2009 at 4:14 p.m.

I am from Munising and after reading some of these comments I am actually embarrassed for you people! Do any of you proof read before you hit submit?? Why all the hate??? Bottom line is he drank, he drove and he got caught! Now lets see what happens.

Take good care

Posted by L Little, Little Lake - Tuesday, August 04, 2009 at 9:55 a.m.

For those who follow the news,,,,,? Texting while driving is considered the same
risk if not higher than "drunk" driving. Moms & Dads, don't let your children text - "lest" they kill an innocent driver, my friend or relative I would also miss dearly. AND don't let them babble on the cell phone, cause of a possible equal outcome!
When the Super Bowl comes about to hero worship the National Felons League, of which over 25% are convicted felons, children - don't let Mommy or Daddy go the corner liquor store after 2! beers before calling the Police to report them for driving while drunk. And what a "Beautiful World It Would Be."

drunken judge

Posted by Monica Cearlock, Stephenson - Tuesday, August 04, 2009 at 7:17 a.m.

Shame on you, and I hope you get the most of the punishments. Years ago I had a friend who lost her 3 yr old daughter to a drunk driver, it was my friends daughter, but it just as well been mine. To this day I still hurt over that young childs loss.
I guess you (judge) are not a responsible person, with what you see in your court system, YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOW BETTER, and you DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
And you are not ablove the law. Give that TROOPER a raise, harrah for you, Sir!!! Good Job

What Do You Think?

Posted by Busted Years Ago, Munising - Monday, August 03, 2009 at 12:39 p.m.

Many years ago I made an error in judgement. As I drove home I relized I should not be driving, I had few to many. I pulled off the road to sleep it off. What I thought was the responsible thing at the time. after a short period the MSP felt it necessary to wake me up and take me to jail. There was not any reducing the charges and the book (for at that time) was pretty much thrown at me. I did run, I did not drive 100 MPH, I tried to do the right thing after relizing my condition. I would think running and excessive speeds would make things worse. Do you really believe the book will get thrown at Judge Nebel. What do think?

Making Mistakes......

Posted by Annie Annie, Earth - Sunday, August 02, 2009 at 9:43 p.m.

We all make mistakes, yes, the feeling the need to point this out in light of this judge making a poor choice is a no-brainer. Let's just realize in all of this that this surely is not the first time this Judge drove drunk. There are two types of drinkers regarding driving following drinking......You've those who NEVER would take not one drink and then drive; these are your responsible people who have made a personal pledge, a real good choice.....then you've folks like this Judge obviously, who drink and drive not just on one occassion as some of you are in denial about regarding this Judges' charge....until they get caught. Once they get caught, hopefully it is sufficient enough a lesson that they are not the type you read about in the paper all the time with 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, etc., If this judge tells you it's his first time he made this error in judgment, he's lying so don't fool yourselves. Think about the two types of drinkers as it pertains to driving to conclude what would be just the simple facts of it. He should be made to resign and he should expect that those who have ever gone before him and those even who haven't would call him a hypocrit. It's about time a cop holds accountable one of the "leaders" in communities, they've gotten away with things for decades: ENOUGH!

In all honesty he should lose his license and is high ranking law job!

Posted by Secret Service , Marquette - Saturday, August 01, 2009 at 1:17 p.m.

There are too many "law officials" getting away with things that they then punish other people for. How many DUI cases has he over seen and sent people to jail or fined for? This is enormously irresponsible of him. He is supposed to be setting an example for others, for the children. He may be a "good man" but he did a very BAD THING! Why would it be ok for him to resume his law career when he is breaking the law on the weekends. As I said in the beginning there are WAY to many "law officials" breaking the law, I could list many police officers in Escanaba that have been seen around town doing lines of coke with the same people they bust. The same thing about officers in Marquette, rolling joints in their police cars while on duty. If it's not ok for the rest of us. It is REALLY NOT OK FOR THEM!!!!

Personal Freedom and Public Integrity

Posted by Wade Roberts, Wetmore, MI - Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 10:39 p.m.

While we are free to inquire, speculate, formulate and discuss our opinions regarding this incident privately, it is critically important that we restrain ourselves publicly in the absence of the facts surrounding this incident.

Very little factual information has been publicly released and rightly so.

We are all, regardless of station, entitled to the fundamental right to due process as well as the right to face our accusers.

Two important facts we should all take pause to contemplate prior to making any commentary, public or private.

No person came to any physical harm. For that we are universally grateful.

Secondly, we share a common duty as responsible citizens to protect these aforementioned fundamental rights.

No one should be tried or pilloried in the press or other public forum.

Doing so not only tramples the rights of Judge Nebel, but those of your own.

Hell yeah, I live here!

Posted by Hometown proud!, Beautiful Munising, MI - Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 4:09 p.m.

I can't help myself, I just have to stick up for my hometown. There have been some comments about how Munising is known as a "rumor mill" and we the people of Munising are rude for sharing our thoughts. Every town at one point has been pegged with such a title! People have the same characteristics everywhere! You think your town is any better? You think YOU are any better? Munising is one of the most beautiful majestic towns in the Upper Peninsula. There is so much to offer here, the sites and activities are endless. The people here are like all places in the UP, they are happy caring people who love where they live and are proud of what we have. We may make mistakes, we may or may not support those who make mistakes, but we ARE proud of our community and where we call home!

The real mistake was taking the job as judge to begin with....

Posted by Never met the man, Houghton - Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 3:39 p.m.

Alright, I have been reading these comments for days and finally I have to say something on this topic. Maybe the people who are screaming that he should basically be hung are a bit off, however the people saying that he should just be left alone are forgetting something as well. When he took the position as a judge, it was known to him that it is a public position. At that time, he should have stopped and thought, "for the next how ever many years, I won't be able to bar hop and drive myself home" That is just common sense. If you want to take those kind of chances, don't accept a position like that, where the public has the right to pry into your life. Because like it or not, being employed by the public puts the spotlight on you. It is on you for all of the wonderful things that you do, and it's going to be on you when you screw it up too. Just like all of the actors out there that are constantly in the tabloids. Is it right that they have no privacy? Maybe not. But facts are facts and if you want privacy, don't become an actor. And all of the politicians out there that can't keep their pants on. You want to mess around with your secretary, go for it. But don't take a public job. When you get busted it will be that much worse.

We are all human, yes, and we all make mistakes. But before he had that first drink, he should have stopped and thought, "Geez. If I am going to have a few tonight, I better arrange for a ride home. If I don't I am a judge and it would be a nightmare." But he didn't think. Period. And if you want a public job, you better think, because if you don't it's not pretty. It's really not that tough. Do I want a public job with the spotlight on me? No way. Not that I am planning to get drunk and drive around or anything equally stupid, however should I make a mistake, I prefer it not to be on the evening news. That is my choice. He too made his choice.

And he should be treated like everyone else, he should have to sit in the clink, and wear an orange vest while picking up garbage on the side of the road, and pay huge fines and have your insurance go through the roof. But does he deserve sympathy for being put through the wringer? No. If that's what he wants to do and how he wants to live, then the real mistake he made was taking the job to begin with.

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P.S. I am thankful that there were no injuries and/or fatalities. Had there been, I'm sure I would feel a little differently about the whole situation.

Not Using Your Name!

Posted by no name, munising - Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 12:45 p.m.

So I have been reading these comments for the last couple of days and what I have noticed for the most part is all of you who are sticking up for him of course put your name on it,I like to call it kissing up, (look Neble I'm sticking up for you) come on, of course people are using this to say what they really feel about him, when else do they have the chance! And if you put your name on it and said something other than we love you, watch out cuz everyone will talk about what YOU wrote, I don't dislike him and have never been in trouble with the law, but I do know we all knew he was human before this happened, we all have seen him in the bar, not that it's bad to be in a bar, but those of you who are making comments about we finally see he is human come on your making it sound like he is a god or something. I think he must have needed a little kick off of his high horse and brought back down to reality. All you who are mad because TV6 is letting these comments through,(Munising) is loving it and you know who you all are becasue you are still on this sight reading all the comments.

Judge Nebel

Posted by Jayne Mackowiak, Escanaba - Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 9:15 a.m.

"Let those without sin cast the first stone"

Quit defending him

Posted by B B, AuTrain - Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 6:09 a.m.

He broke the law, he should be punished like I or any other normal citizen would be punished.

T-Bone Comment from Jay R. in Manistique

Posted by Luce County Resident, Newberry, MI - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 10:51 p.m.

Your final comment was not necessary nor does it pertain to the forum. The Newberry MSP officers were following protocol, doing their job and it was an unfortunate accident. After a lengthly investigation, the Luce County P.A. concluded that they were not at fault.

Congrats,absolutely,for doing their job.

Curious

Posted by Anonymous Munising, Home - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 10:11 p.m.

Yes I Agree Charlie is a Good Man , and does alot of things for the town of Munising . But let's not forget there are alot of other great people in town who also do alot for the town of Munising. Also It said he was Clocked in Excess of 100 MPH What was he clocked at? 101 , 102 105, what exactly was that number?
That does make a difference in the charges he will get . Also his alcohol content was said to be above 0.8 Well was it 0.9 ? 1.0 ? we never did here that either . I guess a few of us are just curious???

sure thing...

Posted by roy bean, marquette - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 7:50 p.m.

I sweep of my steps quite often. You people, just like THE JUDGE are all hypocrits. Who the hell is HE to JUDGE ANYONE if HE isn't sweeping his OWN steps off??? "Poor Judge... he's a nice guy, he just screwed up"... yep, and he won't get all the crap that a regular guy would go through for a drunk driving ticket, because he's a JUDGE! He'll keep his retirement and his job, so he can keep judgeing the othe nice people "that just screwed up". At least he's acknowledging the fact that he screwed up, otherwise noone would have known it

all i have to say is...

Posted by Ben Lewis, UP - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 7:05 p.m.

JUSTICE BE SERVED!

and yes I used my REAL name!

My Hats Off To "not the first time"

Posted by A Concened Citizen, Manistique - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 6:28 p.m.

If the judge repeatedly drove people around drunk, then it sounds like he may have a drinking problem. I am concerned that he may not be able to use objectivity from the bench. He took an oath to protect children from substance abusers. I feel he should lose his position as judge and not be allowed to ever run for judge. Judges are given too much power as a single person. If a judge makes a bad decision, there is nothing you can do. This is a scary thing. It happens more than you think. Therefore, any judge should have strong moral values and a clean record.

famous

Posted by Ann a-local, in my living room - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 3:40 p.m.

Charlie is receiving more publicity than Micheal Jackson! This to shall pass. He will get spanked and we will all move on to another story. Everyone knows he screwed up and he is not being patted on the back for it. But it really is getting out of control with some folks. Maybe we should all sweep our own door steps and stay off of others. It's his problem and that I am glad for, because I sure as hell wouldn't want to be standing in his shoes.

hypocritical posters

Posted by head on my, shoulders - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 2:39 p.m.

i love all you people saying to stop the public comments on tv six because they are so hurtful to those involved in the story. take a look at some of the comments they do approve that put them and their reporters down yet they go unmentioned by you beasts. kind of hypocrytical of all you whiners out there begging to get rid of them. keep it up tv six. you bring a large community together in one place. i wouldn't want the job of going through these things. as far as nebel goes i think being in the public eye in a possition as his, he shouldn't be doing what he was caught for. that's that. he has handled it well and will see proper punishment. as far as this conversation here keep it coming. it needs to be talked about because popular people get let go all the time just because of their name. not fair for me or the rest of us.

Move on

Posted by I too will Hide behind my computer, UP - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 2:39 p.m.

Some of you are in support of Charlie, others are quite against him and others are indifferent. I'm of the ladder. Yes I know him, yes I've known him for years but I will be the first to admit that what he did was wrong and he should be punished. Maybe he shouldn't be Judge anymore, but I do not think he should lose his law license. He's not the first person in these parts to hold a "high" position and get in trouble. I seem to remember some little issues a while back with a certain Adamini. Ring any bells people? And just think he was elected by the people not appointed by the gov.

How many of you have had 2 beers and then drove home? I know I have and I know that I felt 100% FINE, I also know that if I had been pulled over I would have been nabbed for drunk driving. It's a chance many of us take because the legal limit is so low. That's fine it keeps us safe. So many here are picturing this car careening down the road at a million miles an hour with a sloppy drunk behind the wheel swerving all over the road. I don't know for sure but I bet that wasn't really the case. I am sure he wasn't as drunk as you all think. I'll concede though that he should have watched the speed. Further more think back to what I just asked about having a couple beers and driving, did that make you an alcoholic? I didn't think so. He's human just like the rest of us and made a mistake.

I also find it utterly ridiculous that every person who has ever gone up against him in court or sat on the other side of his bench is now an expert on his character. Of course you dislike him, that's your right, but must you bash him here. He's an easy target now, huh? As for the people who posted about karma and Charlie getting what's coming to him because he picked on them in school, are you kidding me? You graduated 30 years ago GET OVER IT!!!

"Fall from Grace"

Posted by K Cromell, Munising - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 2:20 p.m.

The "Fall from Grace" is never easy or expected. It happens when you least expect it to and nobody, including judges, are immune to that fact. I do not beleive that there is a viewer of TV6 or readers of this sight who can honestly say "the fall from grace" has not touched or affected their lives in any way. It just happens to be that Charlie is a Judge and a Nebel and therefore news headlines, when in reality would any one of us embrace having our mistakes or mis judgements aired in such a mannor?

Let's let the legal system deal with the outcome. And maybe all of us should show a little more compassion toward others.

Keep your head high Charlie, you just prooved to everyone that you are, infact, human:)

Comments

Posted by Mary Ellen Pond, Munising - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 1:54 p.m.

Would you post such harsh comments if you had to supply your real names?

What should happen

Posted by A G, Marquette - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 12:11 p.m.

Someone posted that he did not actually flee and elude the police, just that the police had to "catch up to him" and that he immediately stopped his car once the office activated his squad lights. If that is true, then I think he should be charged with driving while under the influence of alcohol and reckless driving.

His plea bargain should be to plead guilty to both a lesser charge of driving while impaired and to the reckless driving. He should also be given a delay of sentence on the reckless driving charge only, and if he completes his probation, it would get dismissed, leaving him with only the driving while impaired conviction.

That would be a fair outcome for a first-time offender. And just because he is a judge doesn't mean he should have the book thrown at him. The fact that he's a judge should, however, mean that he loses his job as a judge because of this.

He should lose his job as a judge, but not his law license. People make mistakes. He shouldn't be denied the chance to earn a living. Having been through the system himself as a defendant will not take away his ability to represent clients. It may even help him to it. However, to sit in judgment over anyone requires a higher standard of conduct. So he should not be allowed to continue to be a judge, but he should be able to continue to be an attorney. I'm sure he'll receive some sort of reprimand from the state bar, but his law license should not be suspended or revoked.

Comments are Beneficial

Posted by Keep CommentsOpen, Marquette - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 11:52 a.m.

I disagree with the poster who says TV6 should not allow comments.

I think not only is it good for the community to be able to post comments, but it's helpful for the person involved (Nebel) to see what the community thinks.

Given the majority of the comments are in the "hang him" or at least the "punish him" category, Nebel will know what he faces if he chooses to fight for his job as a judge. He can also see the general opinions and know how to respond to them.

Besides, the comments posted are all fair comments. There's nothing inappropriate, such as cursing, making threats, or disparaging comments about family members of the judge.

So TV6, thank you for having the commenting threads available, and supplying the necessary bandwidth to allow the posts to remain. Keep it up.

And the awards go to....'Hiding behind' and 'Slick D'

Posted by S M, Iron Mountain - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 11:45 a.m.

HIDING BEHIND: You crack me up!! Gotta love it, very creative, you get an "A" and a "Golden Gavel Award"...congratulations, you have the best post in here!

SLICK D: Good retort, concise and point well-made. You get an "A" minus and a silver star...congratulations, you have the second-best post in here.
(Shaking hands all around while the crowd cheers...)

re. judge arrest

Posted by nancy fuller, suttons bay mi - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 11:18 a.m.

this is to say we are all human but heres a good one for all of you i have a nephew who has been picked up for drunk driving and mips for at least three times lost his drivers license till2011 that was 4 yrs ago he is still driving and partying hearty he drives to work every morning and every night and on the weekends god only knows what condition hes in where are the cops when this person is on the road why isnt he caught up with so much for the boys in blue some departments couldnt track an elephant in three feet of snow but they can catch a man who makes only one mistake and spread the news i should say dirt all over the place HOW MANY OF YOU POEPLE OUT THERE KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS DRIVING WITHOUT A VALID DRIVERS LICENSE THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY COULD DO ?????????????

Congrats!

Posted by Jay R., Manistique - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 11:17 a.m.

WOW... I don't understand it. Yes he was arrested. Yes he broke the law. Yes he made a mistake. What's all the debate? He was wrong. He admitted he was wrong. Yes that's what people do when they get arrested. They usually say they were wrong. I think the big story is Congrats to the Newberry Troopes for a successful pullover. They didn't T-Bone anyone this time in there pursuit.

Agreed

Posted by S. O., MQT - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 11:11 a.m.

I agree on the comments issue. Seriously a horrible idea. People aren't civil enough to use them properly. I know even I get out of hand something, but honestly...

Why Hurt Others

Posted by Holly Graves, Munising - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 11:07 a.m.

Why cant people just be kind to eachother? Munising has seen enough grief and hurt. Just leave Charlie alone. He is human and has feelings, just like all of us. Not only are your negative comments affecting him, but his entire family and our community. Please just be nice to one another.

..

Posted by Judge Nebel Supporter, Munising - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 10:18 a.m.

It is funny that almost every comment on here where someone is bashing judge Nebel they also include that they were arrested for the same thing. My question is that if you would have gotten away with it would you really care? Jusge Nebel is an outstanding person in this community and has done so much. Now just because he shows he is actually human and made a mistake all of his respect is gone. He has taken responsibility and will not get off easy.

Slick D

Posted by Rob K, Home - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 9:17 a.m.

I guess it would depend on the circumstances, right? Did you intend to kill me?
If you ran a stop sign by accident and I was three blocks away at the time, did you almost kill me? If I had left home two min. earlier that day, I couldve been at that intersection, right? Can you see a difference?
Again, my point is that you shouldnt get carried away with what couldve happened. It didnt.
And a response to the person that wants WLUCTV6 to stop the comment section. Making comments is exactly what this is all about. It allows people to voice opinions and yes, even disagree. If you dont want to participate or are offended, go to the Mining Journals web site. All comments are approved by TV6 before they appear on this board so they do have control over what gets posted. I appreciate TV6 allowing us to contribute. You should too.

Rob K.

Posted by Slick D, Kingsford - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 8:32 a.m.

If I almost kill you that would be attempted murder.

WLUCTV6

Posted by Message for WLUC TV6, munising - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 8:31 a.m.

I think TV6 should think twice about allowing comments to be made on stories. All this is doing is hurting those involved, and adding fuel to the fire (not only in this article but in most articles where someone is to blame...doesn't matter who, but the public seems to always find a reason to put in their two cents which is unnecessary). If you agree and think comments do no good, please email TV6 and let them know.

Police Report

Posted by just wondering, marquette - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 8:29 a.m.

I will say that reporting news in this area leaves something to be desired; however, in regard to the police report, I find it hard to imagine that someone was going 100 mph and didn't know he was being chased.

online robes?

Posted by hiding behind, my computer - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 8:11 a.m.

as i read through all the indictments of the judge here i found myself wondering where all these newly self appointed judges got their robes from? then it occurred to me that they got them online. so i typed "robes" in google and clicked on www.2scaredtogivemyfullname.com where they a great selection. i now have my own robe and am ready to start my career as a judge....woohoo here goes:

judge nebel has done a ton for his community
judge nebel made mistakes
judge nebel accepted responsibility for his actions and is willing to accept his punishment

please stand while i read the verdict....

GUILTY!
judge nebel is guilty of being a verty good man that made mistakes and has accepted responsibilty for them.

case closed! (loud gavel sound)

wow...got through my first case. i am retiring my robe now to focus on the positive things that people do and to do positive things to make my community better. i may make some mistakes but i sure hope people focus on my positives rather than the negatives. oh wait..i just had a career as a judge and nobody knows who i am????

Again, Annie

Posted by Rob K, Home - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 8:10 a.m.

One more comment as I just read the second part of your post.
He was NOT eluding the police. He was speeding at 100 mph so I imagine that the police had to go much faster just to catch up to him. How fast do you think that might have been? Again, I am not condoning his actions but please dont read things into it that just arent there.

Annie Annie

Posted by Rob K, Home - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 8:02 a.m.

The point that I was attempting to make was that you cant be charged with "Almost or could've" causing something so why even go there? It is not against the law anywhere that I know of to "almost or could've" do anything.
It's kind of like saying that I could've been the President if I had only left for work an hour earlier one day in 1973. Absurd.
I am not condoning his actions but lets not get carried away with what could've happened.

WOW

Posted by L Little, Little Lake - Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 7:48 a.m.


So much venom coming from some folks in "God's" Country - help, it isn't even Winter yet.

Commenting on Comments Continued......

Posted by Annie Annie, Earth - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 11:26 p.m.

Then there are situations whereby a judge lets someone out of prison when this judge clearly should not have and ultimately another victim is born. Lest we not forget to realize that in all probability using statistics of crimes and criminal behaviors....the crime to follow will include more people and be even more heinous. Citizens, most notably the victims if they are alive and the victims family cannot sue the county for the bad decison of a judge. A judge cannot be held accountable for making really bad, society affecting decisions and it happens far more frequently than you realize. So with this comes this higher standard they are to be held to; in this case the Judge was speeding, eluding, and intoxicatated.....he should be removed from his position, never be permitted to run for Judge (I know he was appointed), and perhaps open a practice for defending DUI cases? THROW THE BOOK AT HIM!

Leave it alone

Posted by Barry Johnson, Sault Ste Marie - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 11:16 p.m.

A few years back I had moved away from Munising to find a job. After living in Munising for 30 years one finds it very difficult to leave. Once a person does leave they are afforded the opportunity to compare what they left to what they have now. And the one thing that I always speak about to my new friends and co-workers is how fortunate Munising is to have the people that they do working as police officers, judges, lawyers, bankers, pharmacists, and so on. Anyone that says that the judicial/legal system in Munising is corrupt can only say that because they have had an experience with one of those systems and most likley more than one. These are the people that cannot admitt to their mistakes or take responsibility for their own actions. I know from experience that not only do the folks in that community care about the community, but they care about the lives of the people. If we look at how many people that have entered the court system have been giving second, third, or fourth chances rather than going to prison, we would see that there is a very humanistic side to the folks that operate the legal system in Alger County. If our judges and lawyers did not work together to give the people of Alger County a second chance, Munising would be a ghost town.

The most disturbing part of all of this is that the one thing that I really do not miss about living in Munising is exactly what we are seeing here. Many people seem to oversee the good in people and take advantage of every opportunity to bring negative light to anyone other than themselves. Those of you who can sit down on your computer and slam someone for being a human obviously have some issues of their own to deal with. You should be embarrased of yourselves. It is no wonder Munising is called the "rumor mill". Even living over here in the Sault I hear of people talking about how Munising is bad for the rumors. I am curious to see how people over the next few weeks will take this story and twist it around to make Charlie seem like some monster that does not even deserve to live. If those of you that like to spend your time slamming other people are even as half as concerned about the people that live in your community as Charlie and the other folks that keep that community going are, you would forget about this today and move on and worry about cleaning up your own messes, taking responsibility for your own actions, and find other ways to make yourselves feel better other than preying on the vunerable. Quit blaming other people for your own actions. I see Charlie did not do that. If you cannot, I recommend moving from there as you do not deserve what that community has to offer.

Commenting on Comments........

Posted by Annie Annie, Earth - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 11:15 p.m.

Rob K....you made comments about "almost causing a crime" when in fact this person DID commit a crime. You can be sure, certain...that this Judge, as does all of them, makes a closing speech following a trial and prior to sentencing that has MANY hypotheticals in it.....and yet you don't see the reason to produce to ponder the ones given about "could have killed someone", etc., To the poster who said this is not a repetative behavior....Do you really believe, look deep for this one, that this is the first time this man ever drove drunK?????????????????????? See this is precisely the hypocracy that really gets me regarding judicial power. If you research the original intent of judges for this country and research the position today in this country you will see a position that was given far too much power individually, more than anyone has except God himself....and in this researching you will realize that the position of Judge would require a huge ego to run for the position, it is a position they know fully well comes with power unbelievable. They must know the law and apply it using objectivity, some good ol' common sense by listening to the trial and any court appearances prior; yet for some unknown reason, perhaps due to inability to remain objective there is a 20% of the prison population that are actually innocent and another 10% that are oversentenced; meaning given too much time for actual culpability. I will continue this in another post...running out of room....

Not the first time

Posted by Thank God no one was hurt, Munising - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 11:15 p.m.

I know people who have driven in a car with Mr. Nebel as he drove drunk. It might be the first time he got caught but it's by far the first time he's driven drunk. Get him off the road before he does kill someone. He might be a great person and has done great things for the community but he has a big problem. Just pray your kids, friens, or family is on the road at the same time as the judge.

God's Child

Posted by A Christian Wonder, Munising - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 11:08 p.m.

Two things: 1st: Have any of you read the police report? I don't think so! If you did, you would not see the words "fleeing and alluding". Judge Nebel was not "chased" by police so to say. When they finally caught up with him (lights/siren), he pulled over immediately. He never even knew that he was being "chased". Don't assume things before you know them.
2nd: Remember, we are all sinners. No matter how big the sin is, we all need to ask for forgiveness. Just remember that Judge Nebel is a child of God. Would you want all of these negative comments pointed at you, if you were in his position? "Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins. 1 Peter 4:8

Everybody smarten up!

Posted by Peter itdoesntmatter, Alger County - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 10:50 p.m.

1. Nobody's perfect. Not even Probate Judges!
2. His drunk driving charge has no bearing on his ability to preform the responsibilties as judge. I honestly can't think of a better person to have as a judge.
3. Remember everybody we don't have all the facts!

all you who want to see him burn just becuase you made a mistake and got burned. Grow Up. I'm sure he will get what he has got coming. We all take risks everyday just being on the road not just with drunk drivers.

Manning up???

Posted by Dan Thompson, Munising - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 8:47 p.m.

To those of you who say he is admitting he was wrong bla-bla, He has no choice but to admit it HE WAS ARRESTED!!! He couldn't pay a wrecker driver to pull him out and make the evidence go away like in the past. Is he going to admit to that now?

Charlie Nebel

Posted by Ross Cook, Munising - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 6:04 p.m.

I was told of the comments made on this site so i had to see for myself. Sure Charlie sits in a high position and remember he is still just a man. I see comments made that he should get help for his drinking??? people automatically put a tag on him ? that's just crazy. some people have him pegged as an alcholic. I laugh at you for those who pass judgement on him and have no clue . seems like some of you have never made a mistake in your lives . i want to meet you for you must be GOD .. sweep your own doorstep first. WE ALL SCREW UP IN LIFE. He did wrong and now he will be judged by his peers...

Re: donna kolbus

Posted by Brenda Spangler, Gwinn - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 5:20 p.m.

so, am I to assume that if this Charlie Nebel were to have been the one to kill one of your children while driving at speeds in excess of 100 mph while DELIBERATELY trying to get out of what he's now, for some reason (perhaps because he got caught) going to stand up and take the blame for. You'd be behind him 110% in that scenario as well? Just a thought...i'll be curious to see how this turns out.

to: skeeter matrixx

Posted by Skeeter McFarland, GR - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 5:05 p.m.

Yeah, i've seen the video of Twiggy the waterskiing squirrel. He is pretty cool -- i guess, if you're into that type of thing.

Also, are you the guy that owns the matrixx?

Truth Police

Posted by Milburn Drysdale, Gwinn - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 5:03 p.m.

How many of you called for Adamini's resignation???

Karma!

Posted by former UP resident, WA - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 4:58 p.m.

That''s what he gets for thinking he was untouchable in the UP. You break the rules you deal with them, just like all those people he dealt with. it's only fair he have the same treatment as every citizen he saw! And this should show some sort of light of how things would be done in his ruling as judge. It was only four months!! He has everything coming to him. There you go "Judge" love the taste of karma. And I mean karma also for helping criminals run free in Alger County! Defending people that should be behind bars.

Carol Indiana

Posted by Carol howard, Huntington Indiana - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 4:47 p.m.

ok he did good works for Munising. But he still was drunk and speeding! So what you are all saying is as long as you do things for Munising its ok for you to break the Law? I like him just as much as the next person but he still needs to pay for what he did.

I agree with "interesting"

Posted by a mother Schoolcraft County, Schoolcraft County - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 4:24 p.m.

This judge was never elected to the bench by the people. He was appointed by Granholm. He is a probate judge and he has no business deciding which parent is more fit to raise a child. He could have killed someone's child driving drunk in excess of 100 mph. This is an outrage!! Someone who has a drinking problem is in no position to judge other people's lives or what punishment a teen should get for drinking. Hug your kids tonight and be thankful they are alive. It is people like him who need to be removed from the road and removed from the bench.

if your perfect, write a book!

Posted by dan johnson, negaunee - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 4:14 p.m.

i think that Donna Kolbus said it best. i don't care if he is supposed to hold a higher standard or not. we all make mistakes. that's what the law is there for. he knows he messed up and is willing pay the consequences. let him be judged by the court, no one else has the right. charlie and his family put a lot of good into our community. can you say the same for yourself?

Charlie Nebel - not a bad guy

Posted by Deidre Kolbus, Houghton - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 3:57 p.m.

Do you know Charlie Nebel? Anyone who can answer yes knows that Charlie is a good guy, and so is everyone else that carries the Nebel name. But THIS incident has nothing to do with the Nebel name, this has nothing to do with some personal vendetta or legal problem someone has with him, this has nothing to do with his involvement in our community or activities, and this had nothing to do with his past. Charlie screwed up and he has admitted to it and will take the consequences. It is out of our hands and in the legal system now. All of the negative comments before, after, and during this process are not going to change a thing. If he gets a slap on the wrist, well, yell at the legal system - NOT Charlie. He is no better or worse than you or I and vice versa. Take your judgments and look around you and then look at yourself in a mirror. Don't tell me you have never made a mistake. All these what if's and shoulda coulda woulda comments are crap. Look at the facts and let the courts decide.

Im with Mr. McFarland

Posted by Judas Keegle, Munising, mi - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 2:07 p.m.

Drinking is great, Driving is not such a bad thing. Mix two good things together and we got something great here! Not to mention who doesn't like to go fast...i do i do! This is just a tri-fecta of good things put together in one... i say touche

re: Swizzy McFarland

Posted by Skeeter Matrixx, Marquette - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 1:56 p.m.

I've seen this cat video you speak of. My goodness it's hilarious! Such a cute little kitty! I can put my stamp of approval on this video. Have you seen the squirrel waterskiing? Also very humorous.

Why?

Posted by Me Me, 9o6 - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 1:42 p.m.

Why couldn't I have have announced full responsibility and been blessed with a clean record doing the same thing? I'm a good person with two college degrees.......

Re: Donna Kolbus statement

Posted by carol tweedale, munising - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 1:40 p.m.

Well put Donna!!

Time for help!

Posted by Schoolcraft County, Manistique - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 1:31 p.m.


It is highly recommended that Mr. Nebel immediately and respectfully step down as a judge, so that the judiciary system such as it is may not not be diminished any further. There are many judges and law enforcement personnel who will be scrutinized and viewed in a different light as a direct result Mr. Nebels actions, this in my limited perspective seems unfair to those practice judicial integrity and follow the letter of the law. Furthermore, with do respect for Mr. Nebel, he needs to get help for his alcohol based problems that may influence his ability to make sound decisions. The very sound decisions that are expected from the bench as well, as all indications are this is not his first incident with alcohol. I further believe if Mr. Nebel gets the help he so needs, I believe he would be a better man for it. Mr. Nebel being the community orientated person he is, will undoubtedly contribute his bad experience to a positive light in helping others with dependency problems. Help protect our children from those with dependency problems, that Mr. Nebel was sworn to do from the bench. With that being said Mr. Nebel should be thankful his actions did not take innocent lives, however still putting everyone at serious risk, including law enforcement that was involved with this matter.

karma is great

Posted by Jim Bob, munising - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 1:29 p.m.

Anyone who says "I love you Charlie" must be one of his mistresses. There is no excuse for what he did. Some say he "manned up". Of course he did. He had no choice. After fleeing police at 100 mph he was finally caught. He could have killed himself. Fine, who cares. Worse he could have killed you or one of your family members--would you be so enamored of him then? He is a hypocritical jerk who belongs in jail. Even so this won't stop the corruption in the Alger County court system. His family pretty much owns it.

I think

Posted by Swizzy McFarland, GR - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 1:16 p.m.

I think everyone should just relax and watch a cat video. There's this one where a cat is jumping in & out of a box. It's hilarious. Trust me on this...it'll make this whole case seem less important.

I think

Posted by Swizzy McFarland, GR - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 1:12 p.m.

I think people should be allowed to drink & drive. Maybe it's just me, but it makes things more interesting, no?

NOW HIRING!

Posted by the one and only weilder, Munisings finest - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 1:10 p.m.

Mr. Nebel,

HARDEES IS NOW ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR ASSISTANT MANAGER! IM GUESSING YOULL BE OUT OF A JOB

Still....Proud to be your friend....

Posted by Rick Graves, Illinois - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 1:09 p.m.

I think it's obvious to say everyone knows that drunk driving is never good. Some actually find out in bad ways by taking someones life, taking their own, or just plain geting caught. In any of the scenario's above, nobody wins. This includes those that are guilty, innocent, or effected through family, friends, etc..
And still today, the number of those that have never been caught, still greatly exceeds those that have. And this is even after reducing the legal limit 20% nationally several years ago. So that certainly makes Charlie no stranger in this great big country.
The world is filled with those that take one chance, or chances every day. Even the person that takes just that "one" chance, risks the outcome stated above, and then additionally, will have to live with that the rest of their life. I think Charlie certainly knows that, and I'm hoping all the "innocent" bloggers do too, that have never done this before.

This man fully understands what he did, admitted it, appologized, and will accept anything that is delivered to him. Based on all my dealings with him in life, I'm confident he will become an even better man because of this. He has always, without question, worked very hard, and given 110% to make things better in life, and for all those around him.

This issue is all directly under his responsibility, and nobody else. There's no reason at all to include his family, State/Local Officials, etc, etc.. into this mix. They're all just human beings just like all of us, no matter who they are, or of any power, position, or title.

But to restate the obvious, Charlie, his family, and his relatives have always given their entire heart and soul to their community, the UP, the State, and to simply just flat out help a complete stranger in need. If just a smaller percentage of the people in our world today offered as much as this family does for their community, you would easily be in a better environment today. And no it doesn't excuse poor decisions that we "all" make, but SHOULD help people understand the person in question better.

But the sad part in today's society remains...it's just so much easier just throwing stones, or looking for ways to make and ensure that people will fail, and "telling" the world what's right and wrong in "text", instead of actually doing something about it. Just look at the percentage of those that use false names on blogs to criticize, and to just "hide" behind their computer at home, instead of getting involved with their own community. Try sticking your face out in society to help make it a better and more positive place. That would certainly be a much better use of energy.

Charlie, you and your family will always have my full support until the day I'm gone. And so will "anyone" else that needs it in a time of need.
And quite frankly, that's what really makes me proud of you, because you will always be that person too!

:)

Your Buddy Forever
RG

JUDGE NEBEL

Posted by donna kolbus, munising - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:37 p.m.

For all of the readers that have never 1) driven over the speed limit (55) 2) had a few,

2-3 drinks and driven home 3) made a stupid mistake on your job and learned from it. Do not read this.

I, on the other hand, had a really nice and fast car. After picking it up at the dealers in Newberry, I came across the Seney stretch really fast. I didn't get stopped but if I would have I would have been over 100mph. 127 to be exact and I still get a thrill thinking about "getting away with it." I could see for 5 miles and there wasn't a car insight. Really stupid, hey.
And there aren't many of who can't relate to #2 no excuses there. And as far a # 3,learning from mistakes. Everybody should learn from mistakes, and should be allowed to, by law. I am sure no one is beating the Judge up more than he is to himself. He will be given no "special treatment" you can be sure.
There is no one more involved in our community than Judge Nebel, with his time, energy any giving to all the kids. Won't we get a better man in his position because of bad judgement, and the reprocutions involved.
His job is run by laws and regulations,we all hope to be treated fairly should we be in his position....should'nt he recieve the same.
I am making no excuses for what happened, the officer was doing his job and Charlie got caught, so be it. let's let the law do it's job.
1 more little comment. If I had 1 dollar for all the thousands of dollars and another for the thousands of hours devoted to the community and all of Alger county by the Nebel family as a whole, I'd probably go get me a nice little Mustang convertable and take on the Seney stretch late one night........one more time and hope I could remember it with a smile....if not I'd probably get one hell of a ticket and learn from my poor judgement..that's a fact folk's. And that's the law.

Who are WE to JUDGE?

Posted by Rachel Siegle, Norway - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:25 p.m.

First of all we are ALL human and make mistakes.Some of us get caught 98% DONT.MOST try and buy there way out of it.I can bet you 10 to 1 HE will take full responsability for his actions .Hes not hiding hes ADMITTED and did what needed to be done so far as a ADULT.Its time you all sit back and recall a time in your life you did something and GOT AWAY with it.This is a very caring FATHER,GRANDPARENT and above all a GREAT judge.There is one person to judge and it isnt any of us.

Neo!

Posted by the one and only weilder, Munisings finest - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:25 p.m.

You are correct Mr. Neil but that Mighty Ducks reference is top notch! You must admit that was comical! As far as Mr. accepting responsibility, yeah he has no choice but to do so, if he would have pulled over instead of fleeing he would of been out of this charge scott free! The problem was his running scared drunken tactics that resulted in the patrolmen too radio in this chase to headquarters, THEREFORE IMPOSSIBLE TO COVER UP! Too many people simply found out before they knew who it was. Smarten Up!

What a great Judge we have..

Posted by Someone he mistreated Who didn't get fairly seen, alger county - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:07 p.m.

This judge is supposed to Use good "judgement" in convicting our citizens yet he can not even use good judgment on what he himself does as a person. What a good judge we have.. I myself know this judge and as a lawyer he was a cocky arrogant jerk who only heard what he wanted to hear. He did not listen to anything but what he was told by the opposing party. Sad to say.. he did no justice to us in our case. He did not hear nor did he care to hear the truth. I had to rely on him to do nothing for us because he was appointed and allow him to bury us in the ground because no one would listen. I hope that justice will take place here.. and that the justice system will finally stand up and stop the corruption that alger county court has been subjected to. Something has to be done. What judge should be aloud to remain as a judge if he can not use Good Judgement.

Higher Standard

Posted by anonymous alger county resident, alger county - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 10:55 a.m.

Yes, Judge Nebel made several severe mistakes in judgement.
Yes, Judge Nebel has done many good things for his community.
These are distinctly different facets in this matter. The fact that he has done good things for his community should have no bearing on the outcome of this matter. The fact is that he broke several laws, and should be punished accordingly.
The fact that he is a sitting judge SHOULD have a bearing on the outcome; elected, as well as those appointed to elected office because of a vancy in that office should be held to a higher standard, and are expected to set an example for the youth and other members of the community.
This is NOT a person I would like my children to use as an example of the proper way to conduct yourself, regardless of the good deeds done in the past or future. This is a black mark on ALL of the citizens of Alger and Schoolcraft counties, and Judge Nebel should not wait until a trial to step down from his position as judge.

really

Posted by me myself, chatham - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 10:49 a.m.

i guess sober as a judge will not work anymore. he should lose everything including his law liscense. truckers do not get a second chance when they get a drunk driving they lose their cdl. drunk driving is what it is. do not take it easy on him this is why we have laws. 100 mph what the heck was he thinking?

does it matter

Posted by Concerned Mother, Au Train - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 10:25 a.m.

if his blood alcohol was 0.9 or 1.8, he was above the "legal" limit and should not have been behind the wheel...thank god he didn't cause an accident or someones death driving at speeds in excess of 100 mph. The only standards someone should live up to are their own. It appears he is remorseful for his actions, let the court system take it from here.

This shouldn't even be an issue.

Posted by m m, Ishpeming - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 10:10 a.m.

Of course he is manning up to his mistake...it's in the news! What else is he supposed to do now? The fact of the matter is that he should have manned up in the first place, and stopped when he was first being pursued, then it could have been swept under the carpet, more or less, instead of being the public spectacle that it has become! Wow...speeds up to 100 mph!??! Yes, he COULD have killed someone. The fact that he didn't hit someone else in this ridiculous pursuit is pure luck. Why did he do this in the first place? Does he have a death wish?
True, that parts of the UP are a "boring" drive, but knowing that you aren't the only one on those roads is only common sense.
Maybe he is basically a good person, but so am I. If I pulled the same thing (which I never will), I wouldn't have the opportunity to apologize in the news, I would just have the book thrown at me, lose my license, whatever..."Case closed...NEXT!"

hmmm, good deal Charlie!

Posted by Tanis Kropp, Free - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 10:06 a.m.

Karma or poetic justice comes to all that waits. Way to go police men! (muwah)

Hmmm.

Posted by H. Stanning, Calumet - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 9:50 a.m.

The comments on this matter reach from one extreme to another. As a former police officer for 25 years, I look at it this way. A judge and law enforcement officer are held to higher standards than regular citizens. We are out there arresting drunks, etc. and the judges hand out "judgements" regarding their behavior. For either of us to violate the law in this manner is a hypocrisy of the highest level. Any other argument in the judge's favor is a moot point. Like many, he did this thinking he would not get caught. He did and the consequences for him will and should be harsh. After this, how could this judge make decisions from the bench regarding similar matters involving other people?

Interesting

Posted by J M, Gwinn - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 9:49 a.m.

A couple of things. First, he's a probate judge. The only crimes he deals with are juvenile crimes. He doesn't sentence adults. Second, he was never elected. He was appointed by Granholm this year. So he's been on the bench about 7 months or so. Third, for those mad about people saying "he coulda hurt someone," that's what the laws are there for. The only reason we have reckless driving statutes is to protect from the "coulda's" of the world. If he did hurt someone, it would be a different charge. There's a difference between speeding and reckless driving.

As a judge, he should be held to a higher standard of conduct, because he sits in judgment over the people in his counties. Whatever happens with the criminal charges (hopefully he's also charged with fleeing and eluding), he should lose his position as a judge. He should be able to keep his law license though. As an attorney, he can be a person's advocate. However, the citizens of Alger and Schoolcraft counties deserve to have a judge who is unblemished sitting in judgment of their lives. He's deciding which parent is more fit to have a child, or what punishment a teen should receive for drinking alcohol while underage. The man doesn't need to be crucified over this, as he is a person who made a mistake, but he does need to have his position taken.

Glass Houses

Posted by Robert Johnson, Munising - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 9:32 a.m.

I guess Charlie Nebel and myself are the only two that have ever made a mistake. He made no excuses for what he did and excepted full responsibility. He's no different than you or I no matter what position he holds. There's a lot more glass houses in the U.P. than I thought.

ridiculed????

Posted by God forbid it should rhyme, Munising - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 9:31 a.m.

Some one commented on being ridiculed and should move. It's about time he is on the receiving end and this is something he brought about himself, he doesn't have a name that rhymes, was brought up poor or was fat growing up.....oh the name calling and I listened to it at our 30 year class reunion all over again!!!! Time to finally grow up.

Moving forward...

Posted by Alger County Resident, Munising - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 9:22 a.m.

Charlie did not try to cover this up or "sweep it under a rug". He admitted fault and is prepared to face the consequences of his actions. "To err is human"...and he is human. This is not repetitive behavior, he made a mistake. One that has been quite costly but also one that I'm certain he has learned from. Many others in the same position would have tried to make the situation go away. The article doesn't mention that he was .09 (barely above the limit) because that doesn't make for an interesting story. I hope those of you casting judgement never have to live your lives in a "fishbowl", for if you did...what would people say about you? How about learning from your mistakes and moving forward?

Let it be

Posted by K W, Hancock - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 9:19 a.m.

I've always heard the old adage, "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." I am so sick and tired of the negative comments on this site. It's as though some of you have nothing better to do than to trash people and gain joy from the mistakes of others. Judge Nebel has taken responsibility for his actions; he said he was wrong, and he's willing to face the consequences. I give him credit for making the statement - it shows that he recognizes that he was wrong, and does not feel that he's above the law. Look in the mirror, people... if you are perfect, then you can make negative comments. If not, then maybe keep it to yourself.

could of??

Posted by Rob K, Home - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 9:11 a.m.

One thing that really gets me mad are the posters that say things like "He could have killed someone". He didnt! He didnt kill anyone, he didnt injure anyone and he didnt cause an accident or any property damage. He made a mistake that many do and he has accepted responsibility for it and will take the punishment for it. You cant be charged for almost causing a crime.
One more thing, anyone who has to drive through the UP knows that it is the longest and most boring drive you will ever take. When I go from one end to the other especially along the Seney stretch, I go as fast as I can. One day I may get a ticket for it. I will pay it and do it again. I know, I know....I coulda killed someone.

RE: Neil

Posted by Mad As Heck, Alger County - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 9:04 a.m.

You know there are alot of terrific people with big hearts, who are an asset to their communities, do volunteer work, etc., who are stopped and arrested for drunk driving, those same people too realize that they have made a terrible mistake, but you know what? They are not JUDGES!!! I'm just glad me or my family was not out there on the road when he was driving over 100 mph! Just because he is a judge is a great reason to throw the book at him, make an example out of him. Theres way too much of that crap going on here in the U.P.

acceptance

Posted by m h, ishpeming - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 8:38 a.m.

I recall getting a DUI downstate and I was sentenced by a judge who I bumped into many times a social gatherings and him and his wife downed quite a few martinis tooo before he got behind the wheel. When I was being sentenced by this man I was stewing. I was seeing red when I walked out of that court room and remained so until I got sober.
Is it wrong that they committ the same crimes and make the same mistakes the commoners do? Yes, but after all they are human, and no one is above the law. Should he recieve the same punishment as us commoners? Yes

Charlie

Posted by I Agree, Munising - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 8:29 a.m.

Well put, Neil!

Good guy?

Posted by Doreen Schutte, Norway, MI - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 8:26 a.m.

All you people who think he is a good guy and should be given a break, would you feel the same way if while traveling 100mph drunk he hit one of your family members or friends and killed them? I don't think he would be such a good guy then would he? He should be punished just like anyone else and thank God he didn't hurt anyone.

Throw the book at him

Posted by m c, Marquette - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 8:13 a.m.

First, I am more sympathetic to that fact his blood alcohol content was over the legal limit, since the legal limit is about a beer and a half or two, which is pretty absurd. I am most concerned about the fact he was driver over 100 miles per hour.Driving at speeds like this has no excuse, and is obviously a threat to the safety of our society. I believe it is the duty of the local governments to make an example out of this judge to show we as residents do no tolerate this type of criminal behavior.

I was told I was and "undesireable"

Posted by Yours Truely, Trowbridge - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 8:06 a.m.

I guess the good judge can't go up to Canada and go fishing now. Oh well, I am glad to see he manning up to it. Nobody's perfect, even if you are and "undesirable". I suppose I'd be mad at him if he tried and convicted me of a drunk driving. I wonder how many people fall into that category.

Karma stikes again

Posted by Scott Franks , Michigan - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 7:55 a.m.

Its about time that the public gets to see what is really going on in the world

If you want to see more follow this link

Its about judges / police & any legal official in the courts system

http://www.copwatch.net/forums/index.php?s=

It will open your eyes

Held to a higher standard......

Posted by Annie Annie, Earth - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 7:27 a.m.

To those of you in support of this Judge you should know that they are held to a higher standard in this country due to position. Rightfully so mind you, for what type of system do we have if Judges drink and drive (are lucky enough to not get caught) and then turn around and fine severely and possibly jail a common person for the same? You can be sure this is not the first time he's driven drunk....don't kid yourselves....I am unsure of his age but you can trust this is not the first time. This is the hypocracy that is our justice system.....the powers they are given were never meant to be and yet somehow they have become "Judge"...using "JUDGEMENT" in ways that change lives....AND, They are not always correct!! Yep, I said it, they surely have been wrong for nobody is right 100% of the time in ANY JOB. 20% of the prison population is actually innocent of what they are charged with....another 10 are what is considered OVERSENTENCED. Who does this oversentencing and who has the ability to possibly see innocence in those being held on trial....THE JUDGE. So, no feeling sorry for this man.....hopefully the Department of Lawyer Regulation for Michigan will remove him from his position. Hang your lawyer sign back up and defend all the drunk drivers is your best bet!

I'm dissappointed in my community...

Posted by Neil Munising, Alger County - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 7:21 a.m.

I simply cannot believe how disgusting the majority of these comments are. Has anyone other than Judge Nebel ever made a mistake? After reading these disparaging comments, it would seem not.

He is a terrific man with a big heart, and has done more for his community than most do in a lifetime. He runs charity events, coaches little league, announces mustang sports over the radio, sits on numerous boards, and volunteers at every opportunity.

He made a terrible mistake and has taken full responsibility. Now it is time to let the criminal justice system work itself out.

What is worse?

Posted by L M, Marquette - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 6:57 a.m.

I am sure he has done some good things, but if a soldier who has saved lives suddenly kills a buddy, we would punish him. This man could have killed someone! It could have been your or my child. Then what? He should be punished to the full extent of the law, Unlike the drunk driver who hit me!

About Time

Posted by Tom Jones, Chatham - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 3:55 a.m.

Its about time these so called ALMIGHTYS get what they have coming to them. They always think they are above the law. There are a few more of these High Up People that deserve to be punished also. Everyone knows who they are.

give him a break

Posted by C ., munising - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 1:37 a.m.

he should get a break he is a good guy and I'm sure if he does get a break he would be more lenient towards others, but if not, he's pretty much screwed and won't be a judge anymore and probably should move away from the U.P. so he could walk down streets without being ridiculed

Drunken Driving

Posted by anonymous citizen, alger county - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 1:30 a.m.

I am one who knows Judge Nebel personally. Charlie is a good man. He did take full responsibility for this. I'm sure that he will deal with this accordingly and will put it behind him and move on with his life.

I have no idea why so many people are trashing him over this.

First judges...

Posted by Sorry Judge, Home Court - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:33 a.m.

A judge gets busted. Maybe some day we'll see cops get busted too. Not just for DUI, but speeding as well. Cops get pulled over doing 90 US 41, with the license, out comes the badge and no ticket gets written. If one does, it goes on the wall in the precinct and the writing officer's unit gets targeted. Or a phone call gets made and the ticket gets torn up.

da Judge

Posted by yoopr 1, da U.P - Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:23 a.m.

Don't use his name in articles because he is a Judge driving his vehicle drunk at 100 MPH?
Give me a Break
These clowns think they're above the law because they went to Law School and became judges.
Throw the book at him like you would anybody else driving drunk at 100.

What?

Posted by Joe Rudds, Ishpeming - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 11:45 p.m.

Is this a typo? You mean the guy who sentences drunk drivers is a hipocrit? No way! He must have just used mouthwash or something similar....don't you think? I mean this fella is a judge! The ole saying "sober as a judge" just lost all meaning. Heard it all now. Hats off to the fella who arrested this clown.

???????

Posted by Give us All the facts., munising - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 11:24 p.m.

This story says in excess of 100 mph, My question is how much higher than 100 mph was it? 50 miles per hour over the limit is criminal speeding and is a very serious offense, 104 mph is a much less serious offense. What was the exact speed they clocked him at??

Some of you might think I'm splitting hairs but if I was in court the judge would take my license away for a long long time for driving 50+ over the limit, not to mention the harsh penalty for the drunk driving.

Judge Charlie Nebel

Posted by Bill Nelson, Escanaba - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 11:19 p.m.

Saints and Sinners

When somebody yields to temptation
And breaks one of man's or God's laws,
We look for no good in his make-up,
But oh! how we look for the flaws!

No one cares about how he was tempted,
Nor praises the battles he’s fought;
His name becomes food for the jackals --
For us who have never been caught.

“He has sinned!” we shout from the house-tops,
We forget the good deeds he has done,
We focus on that one lost battle,
And forget all the times he has won.

“Come, gaze at the sinner!” we thunder,
“And by his example be taught
That his footsteps lead to destruction!”
Cry we who have never been caught.

I’m a sinner, O Lord, and I know it,
I’m weak, I blunder, I fail.
I’m tossed on life’s stormy ocean
Like ships embroiled in a gale.

I’m willing to trust in Thy mercy,
To keep the commandments Thou’st taught,
But deliver me, Lord, from the judgement
Of saints who have never been caught!

anonymous

There are good cops out there!

Posted by Cranial Cerebral, Mars - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 10:49 p.m.

Thankfully this cop had the Hutzva to not cover this up as is so prevalent when one in a leadership or guidance roll breaks the law. Since Judges are given more power than God himself in changing lives, (something went terribly wrong with the system that this happened), it is hypocracy at it's finest when a judge sentences for crimes of eluding and fleeing, OWI, and excessive speed and then he himself embarks on a crime spree. This Judge needs to be disbarred, this will be interesting to watch in regard to what will happen. Apparently the last name in this area is synonomous with special treatment? I believe it happens especially in small towns, larger town....yet very rarely in a city where extortion is involved. This will be just what is needed if that be the case to bring the family back down to reality where the rest of us reside. Kuddos to the cop!!!

Dont forget the real issue

Posted by R. Glyptis, AuTrain - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 10:45 p.m.

Drunk drivers kill yours, mine & ours. Is that fair?

Interesting.......

Posted by Annie Annie, Earth - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 10:40 p.m.

Well, thankfully a Police Officer who will, despite who it is he stops, uphold the law. Thank you to this Police Officer. I know of one particular judge, in the UP as well, that has been known to drink at hunting camp and then get in his vehicle and drive drunk. Also, this same judge has no problems stopping at a convience store for a bottle of alcohol and a brown paper bag so he can drink it whilst he drives. I believe it's that arrogance that comes with a position whereby you affect peoples' lives that has them believing they are exempt. We see it often in decisions judges make on the bench; ability to be objective is part of ethics on being a Judge and yet there are more than not who cannot be objective despite this. This police officer may have saved lives as this arrogant judge traveled 100 MPH through the streets. I'll just bet you in his mind he was thinking he could do this and there would be no consequence, afterall, "I'm a judge...." Wonder how many he threw the book at when sentencing for a DUI, HYPOCRIT!

Hilarious

Posted by angry citizen, munising, MI - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 10:31 p.m.

HAHAHA how ridiculous. Just goes to show how messed up Munisings political system is. Maybe this will be a wake up call to all the people out there who vote. THINK FIRST!!!!!

sorry

Posted by JOE BLOW, MQT - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 10:18 p.m.

I DRANK WITH WITH HIM BEFORE .HE MADE A MISTAKE HE IS A NICE GUY GIVE HIME A BRAKE . THAT SAID HE SHOULD QUIT AND MAKE SOME SORT OF A PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE. THANK GOD KNOW WON WAS HURT.3 BASE

And...

Posted by Not Shocked, Iron Mountain - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 9:30 p.m.

I'm not shocked at this news story one bit. Across the country, we have elected officials (and others) committing crimes all the time. Here in the UP, we've had quite a few judges with drunk-driving charges, we have a judge in the western end who seems to be falling asleep in court and in the past, didn't we have a judge (or maybe it was a prosecuting attorney) who was involved in some drug-ring scandal.

No, I'm not one bit shocked, but am EXTREMELY disappointed that this country is in such a state of moral decay! It's bad enough the politicians are crooked and engaging in scandalous acts, it's really bad ----in my opinion----when even the local judges are out creating havoc. He is darned lucky he didn't kill someone driving drunk like that! And I agree...firing would be too good for him, he should be disbarred as well. As should all the rest of the morons who are in high positions and tend to abuse their power and stretch their privileged statuses.

Throw the scoundrels out! And start with this judge!

Fair treatment

Posted by Steven Holman, Skandia - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 9:08 p.m.

Yes, Judge Nebel did get arrested. Most are glad to see him treated like other people. So, Like all other people he should be treated fairly. First of all he is not guilty yet. He should and I'm sure will get a fair trial. Judge Nebel is a valuable member of his community or he wouldn't have been elected to his position. If he did make this mistake and is found guilty, he should be treated as all other court clients are treated in that County. Please let the criminal justice system work and see what happens before passing judgement.

Steven Holman

Proud to be your friend!

Posted by Kerry Way, Munising - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 7:35 p.m.

I love you Charlie. None of us are perfect. We all make mistakes, grow from them and move on. Your big heart will guide you through. Thank you for all you have done for this community. I am extremely proud to call you my friend. You will always have my unwavering love, friendship and support!!!!

Hats off to the trooper for doing his job!

Posted by ashamed in the U.P., Somewhere in the U.P. - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 7:18 p.m.

We see many judges get drunk and drive. Do they think they are invisible? Or invincible? Then within a week they are sentencing someone for the exact same thing. Where are their morals? Hat's off to the trooper who cuffed this one! Maybe some of the fame will rub off on other cops and they’ll start doing their job with that higher power, instead of looking the other way. What comes around goes around!

UP Judge

Posted by 2 sets of Laws Smith, CHATHAM MI. - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 7:13 p.m.

Make an "Example " out of this Judge, 100mph-let me be going that fast and drunk-Id get charged and EVERYTHING
IN THE BOOK too boot.

Hang him

Posted by Maxwell Genaw, Chatham, MI - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 6:08 p.m.

We are living in communism!

Dis

Posted by Maxwell Genaw, Chatham, MI - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 5:56 p.m.

He should be disbarred, I guess the does not apply to the elite!

let him go

Posted by J B, Munising - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 5:00 p.m.

we owe him that much for what he's done for this county

Don't blame the NEBEL family

Posted by Carol Tweedale, Munising - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 4:55 p.m.

I do agree Judge Nebel was wrong and should be punished and I'm sure he will be and he knows he will be. But for people to use the Nebel name is not fair-there is alot of other people in this town that gets special treatment. He does have family please keep that in mind.

sure we all make mistakes....

Posted by Johny Negaunee, Negaunee - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 4:35 p.m.

but, this guy is supposed to represent the county and is an official. even if it's his first time, this guy shouldn't be sitting on the bench after this. 100+ miles per hour, DUI, and fleeing and eluding? There should be no way he can rule on any sort of case with this in his past. lock him up and make him pay. he should lose his job.

didnt take long

Posted by J B, Schoolcraft County - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 4:33 p.m.

He's hasn't even been a judge for 3 months and he's in jail.. Good job for the trooper, most police would be afraid to arrest a judge.

Surprised.......

Posted by glad to hear, Munising - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 4:28 p.m.

it made the news and wasn't kept "secret". What an upstanding citizen and judge we have. I am so proud. What goes around comes around...

Time will tell

Posted by Crazy Negaunee, duh - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 4:20 p.m.

The problem is that in some cases you will have judges sitting on the bench who have lost their license and done the fines and still hold their place on the bench. I could name one in Traverse City who had to ride a bike to court from loosing his license. If this was a one time slip well stuff happens and nobody is perfect. However if this person was a habitual offender then toss him off the bench and jail him like others. Only time will tell on what actually happens with this one.

Go Figure

Posted by someone Munising, Munising - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 4:20 p.m.

Go Figure. This is his second time (at least). Wait and see, nothing will come out of it. The "Higher Power" always get away with things in this town. Sad, hard truth!!

Unbelieveable

Posted by Katie Smith, UP - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 4:14 p.m.

Just watch. Because he is a political officail he will get off with a warning. If it was a average citizen we would be nailed and screwed to the wall. I think in cases like this we the citizens should be able to play judge and jury.

OMG

Posted by Jen Smith, Munising - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 4:13 p.m.

OMG thought I was gonna pee my pants when I read this one!!!! Nice going Judge Nebel

Quack...Quack...Quack!

Posted by The Shorthall, Marquette - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 4:13 p.m.

Get this man a Pee Wee hockey team and let's make some magic!

Emilio!

Interesting

Posted by how interesting, U.P. - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 4:07 p.m.

How about fleeing and alluding, reckless driving and speeding to name a few other charges that should be filed? It will be interesting to see the outcome of this one. Kudos to the officers that arrested him and didn't just drive him home and keep this quiet because of who and what he is.

drunken driving judge

Posted by Missy Dravan, Munising - Monday, July 27, 2009 at 4:06 p.m.

This shows alot of respect for the law, doesn't it?

It goes to show you that 1) just because you are a judge, you are not above the law, and 2) just because your name is Nebal, you aren't above the law.

It will be interesting to see if he gets off with just a 'slap on the wrist' or if he gets treated (and tried) as a 'normal' person.

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