I am just North of Crystal Falls, about a mile West of US 141 and a mile North of US 2, just north of the "New Bristol Location". I put a $60 radio shack booster on My 20 year old roof antenna (bigger one but with horizontal arms only)and am getting about 70% signal on Channel(s) 13 but only about 20-22% for channel 6 if aimed perfectly. E-NE seems about the best which doesn't make sense to me when looking at the maps. I should get better signal at N-NE. If I could only get a solid 25% I think the signal would be adequate. At 22% it goes in and out. My dad is about 1/2 mile East of me with a newer roof antenna and similar booster and he is getting about 60% signal for channel 6. I may take a chance on a newer antenna...maybe one with the V shaped vertical arms. I am not interested in complaining, its a waste of effort. I do hope TV6 buys whatever 13 has 'cause it ROCKS!!

We and alot of others are still waiting for your Power and height increase on your DTV Station! Even when you do you probobly won't cover the same viewing area as with Analog TV. The stations that stayed on VHF were smarter....they have better Propagation for there DTV Signal than on UHF. The viewers aren't the ones who weren't ready. It was you and the FCC! We're still waiting for your Signal! Please plan better for the future!.....BOOST IT UP MAN!

Have an awesome NEW digital 2009 TV, but absolutely no signal. It wouldn't matter if we had a house-sized antenna; no signal reaches this far (rural area outside of Munising). No way to get service without cable or satellite payment. Yes, I agree. The government and the "local" stations misrepresented coverage.

By the way, called and emailed the government "help" centers--don't bother. Huge wait times and the "helper" claimed it was my TV. TV manufacturer said it isn't the product. Sigh. I bet the TV would work just fine if I sold my house and moved to WHERE THERE WAS A SIGNAL.

In Spread Eagle I went the whole nine yards with a powerful directional UHF antenna, mast-mounted amplifier and good height. Rotated the antenna in all possibly directions and did the digital scan - No channel 6! I have no obstructions close by and get 13 plus several WI stations. I even get 13 when the antenna isn't rotated in the proper direction! The strange thing is I did get channel 6 digitally when I setup everything in the fall, now nothing.

Before I spring for a similar system in Crystal Falls I'd like to if anyone is getting channel 6 digitally over the air...

You know channel 6 its a shame that your folks/engineers didn't try a little bit harder to focus on those of us that are in the rural areas. Everyone I've talked to (along M35 towards Rock) can't get your DTV signal. Being a wireless/signal engineer, its quite clear that you folks didn't plan this transition very well. Well, I guess its so long to channel 6. I'll be happily letting your advertisers know that I no longer (as well as 1000s of others) get your channel.
Just check out http://www.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/maps/

Even though Chris Abotts (sp?) suggested this map was
incorrect, I think it is, unless of course WLUC is providing incorrect information to the FCC (Big no no )
Working together, when? So long guys.
-J

I have done everyting that I was suppose to do I got the conversion boxes and with the coupons still cost $75 out of my pocket. I bought a new antenna fr my roof extented 30 feet in the air to attempt to get it over the tree line. we even bught a new digital tv. On June 12 we got up and scanned for our channels and to our surprise all we get are the 3 versions of channel 13. and that signal only comes in 25% of the time. Now where I live I can not get cable and satelite companies want a credit or debit card to turn you on. I am left literally in the dark. I can go on line ad read the news but with dial up internet that doesn't always work.

Playing around with the Antenna last night and I picked up WGBA(Channel 26.1)in Green Bay.
WGBA's tower is a LONG way from me(It's Appleton I think)and about 150 miles from me. Republic tower is around 55 or less from me.
I don't blame the FCC one bit-I blame the new owner of WLUC-Barrington Broadcasting for being so cheap. I know they're from Illannoy and all but they should know the majority of Yoopers don't live in the City where you can't get cable(If you wanted it).
Beginning to wonder if Barrington is using WLUC as a Tax Writeoff

Well, I DID compose a post but when I tried to submit it, all I got was "SERVICE UNAVAILABLE". So, I don't know if it posted or not. If it did, I'm sorry for posting again.

Last year, we bought a converter box, hooked it up and when we tested it on those "test nights" that TV6 had, we got nothing. Rather than running out and buying high-powered, high-priced antennas and accessories, I began to do some research and realized that because of where I live and the topography, I would probably not be able to receive a signal unless I erected my own antenna tower (we live in a very low spot with hills to our north) and I just do not have that kind of money.

Therefore, I began to explore other TV viewing options and learned that on the internet, I could watch just about any television series that TV6 (as well as other stations) offer. All I had to do was search for the programs I enjoyed and with a few clicks of the mouse, I could watch TV programs, movies, and news broadcasts! [HULU is a pretty good, free service offering movie clips and trailers as well as feature length films both new and old as well as news, sports and lots of television series and programs.)
The only programs I couldn't watch were locally produced programs like "Finland Calling" or "Discovering", much to my chagrin. (sigh)

In the end, I do NOT miss TV6. Their website is convenient because I can read the news at my leisure and on my schedule without having to wait for the news to come on like I did when I was watching television. That frees up a bunch of time for other things I enjoy doing at that time of the evening. (like fishing, for example).

I do not miss NBC news because it is SO biased and doesn't give us all of the information we need anyway. I have learned that by browsing websites and watching other news casts on the internet, I am learning ALOT more about politics and what is going on around that world than NBC ever showed us. NBC and other stations (like CBS and ABC) are SO biased to whomever tosses them the most money, I can't stand watching any of them....instead, I read news from around the world via the internet. Let me tell you, it's expanded my mind!

Though I will miss "Finland Calling" and "Discovering", TV6 is not worth the hundreds of dollars, the time, effort or headache of trying to receive their signal. Sorry guys, but in my book, TV6 has gone the way of high-button shoes. I don't need ya anymore.

You can thank the FCC for that.

Poor lost sheep being led to slaughter.
Yep,we are turning into a socialistic society of morons!!
Go Figure,,,,,,,

I agree totally with Hardworking comments.
We the little people have been deprived of the little
TV that we had out in the rural areas, and who stands to benefit? I hear from Radio Shack that all of Big Bay has no TV6 anymore. My camp is about 3 miles from Big Bay. I USED to get channels 5, 6, and 13. The reception was far from perfect, but I had TV.
Now I get nothing. The message on the converter box is "weak signal." Radio Shack says if I get a rabbit ears antenna with a loop I will probably get channel 13, but NOT TV6. I feel abandoned and betrayed by the FCC, which auctioned off the frequencies for billions, and left us with no TV, not even for emergency bulletins. It's outrageous to lose TV like this.
Are we to be forced to pay for satellite TV? All I need is what I USED to have before the government took it away. We are now in the Third World.

Alex P. writes
"whiners
Posted by Alex P., Ishpeming - Friday, June 19, 2009 at 2:58 p.m.

you're saying "no news, no weather...". you just read a news story and commented on it. then the comment gets posted for all to read about your problems. no weather? maybe you haven't discovered the weather page on this website. it's up top."

I say

With TV you do not have to worry about hackers and virii and malware and whatnot from the moment you turn the TV on to view information. You do not have to wait for the TV to "Boot UP" (unless of course yours still uses Vacuum tubes for the reception circuits).

With TV you also don't have to deal with nosey trackers recording information on every story you click on, watch, or read.

With TV you don't have to keep the software up to date so you can keep viewing the info that you view.

I could go on but you get the picture.

What people don't know is that your own coverage map show's how many household viewers were lost due to the conversion, 47,xxx +. How many of them are still spending money trying to receive a signal ??

I laugh at how many folks are complaining about this. I am glad that I finally don't have to hear or watch the public service announcements about the change to come anymore. You've had all the time in the world to prepare for this. It is just TV people, you act like you've had your food and water taken away. Just wait till all of you are forced to change your healthcare system...

I live in the Florence area and am unable to get a digital signal from WLUC, yet I am still required to obtain a waiver from WLUC for "permission" to receive NBC programming from Direct TV. WLUC has denied my application for waiver no less than 6 times the past 5 years. I am now unable to receive NBC. The FCC is a goverment agency that doesn't work and WLUC has a strangle hold on what I am able to view. C'mon WLUC approve waivers for people oustide your viewing area!!!!!

Just how much more money do we have to spend for a new antenna,amplifiers,converters that don't work!!
We were told that we will have to wait 2-6 months before we can get our Direct tv to carry our local channels.This digital is a total joke!

We got everything needed for the conversion and we are not alone..the majority of the people in the UP who live in rural areas can't get any TV...Sat. dish only with no locals....Is TV 6 going to go to Directv or Dish...I hope so..we are like citizens with no country...get news from news papers, web-sites (not the same on dial-up) or radio..(hem sounds alike like the pre WW1 era...

you're saying "no news, no weather...". you just read a news story and commented on it. then the comment gets posted for all to read about your problems. no weather? maybe you haven't discovered the weather page on this website. it's up top.

It's been a week - nada - nothing. The only station we get is 13-1 13-2 and 13-3. A person would think since channel 6 has supposedly been the only news channel in the UP - they would have the strongest signal out there - this is just really brilliant - no news, no weather...

We are 10 miles from Marquette. We are on a satellite, and received excellent TV6 analog reception. Both 6-1 and 6-2 signals freeze, skip and lose signal on a regular basis, even when weather not a factor. We receive all three TV13 channels bright and strong. When will TV6 increase signal strength - sure can't usually watch local programs now.

We live at the second highest point in the UP in Pelkie. We spent $40.00 per TV (3) plus tax to update, and still a Blue Screen. We use to get TV6, 13, 12 and 3 with an antena. Now, No Local connection at ALL! Oh, this will be an easy transition. My *#%! So now who has nothin' to do? And what intelligent ideas will they come up with next?

For the guy in Negaunee.
Get a large directional antenna and elevate it as high
as possible above the house. Get - use a rotor to pinpoint the desired channel. Your antenna needs to pointed to the SW with the exception of ABC - CW which is
to be set just past the NW. A little bit further North
for the Fox station. Perhaps more to the NE - not certain
Do this (like I did) and you'll be doing just fine.

I work hard for what I have. I dont have the dish due to not wanting to get locked into a contract for 2+ years and needing a $300 deposit with a credit card. Out where I live, cable does not even run out there. I make just over min. wage and I dont feel that it is fair for the government to take away things like one station form us the little people when thats all that most of us get. Get the box. We all get the box. It dont work. Get a new antenna. Still nothing. Real fair. How much more do you want out of us. Our first born? What about all these stations ratings. They must have went down and they will continue to go down if you ask me. Maybe all of you will find out what its like to be at the bottom and have nothing and have everything you do have taken away from you.

You would think that TV6 would have had it setup to be broadcasting their digital signal at a higher power plus had their higher antenna in place before the analog signal was terminated. Why are these two important items still being worked on? It's been known for YEARS the analog signal was going away. It's a shame I have to watch channel 3 out of Wisconsin to get what little U.P. news they have.

shame on the fcc,the politicians and any station that is not ready. once again the govt has forced us into something and left us high and dry.

Remember back in the fifties when you could only get two channels....sometimes? They seemed to come and go with no rhyme or reason. They're baaaccckkk!

We have a camp in Perkins. After trying for two hours, two nights in a row, we came up with channel 13.

At home in rural Gladstone, we have cable. We tried our converter box (just for the fun of it...not) to see what we could get there. After three nights of trying, we got channel 40 and 48....sometimes.

What other country do you know that would change a system that works perfectly well for just about everyone into a mess like this and charge us $40 each for nothing?

I don't remember being told beforehand that there was even a chance this whole digital, converter mess wouldn't work. Do you?

I have an antenna in the attic and have the converter box hooked up. I only get 13-1, 13-2, and 13-3. Nothing else. I live in downtown Negaunee. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can get other stations? I have a dish, and we all know there are no local stations on there! Yes, they say they MAY get local stations in the future... but that doesn't help me TODAY!

I'm on North Third Street and I receive all the stations.
1. 6.1 and 6.2
2. 10.1 and 10.2 ABC and CW
3. 12.1 and 12. 2 from Rhinelander on certain days
4. 13.1 - 13.2 and 13.3 PBS
5. 19.1 and 19.2 when their transmitting
I'm in Ishpeming

"As for other local channels, Public TV 13 appears to have the strongest signal, broadcasting three digital channels."

NOT in Marquette. 13 had a good analog signal here but is NOT available in Digital in Marquette.

"And while TV 5 and 10 are on cable, their signal still wasn't being detected with a converter box on Thursday."

The Ch10 signal has not made it to Marquette since they shut off their channel 28 transmitter.

" Fox 19 is also not viewable by antenna, or cable."

Wrong! Channel 19.1 and 19.2 are available here in Marquette but not at good signal quality. However they just got approved to boost their power from 1kw
to 41 kw. Right now, however, they are not broadcasting any programming.

" And channel 3, which can be seen on Charter, told us they're broadcasting on a low power signal out of Escanaba and are waiting for FCC approval to construct a digital transmitter in Trenary."

If you read their application info you will see that they origianlly wanted a 989kw signal but have asked for modifications on that.

I find it ironic that the two stations that are not even local (3/48 and 19/19) will manage to get thundering signals into Marquette While the stations that claim to be local (6/7/35 and 13/13) are getting
low quality (ch7) signals or no signals (DTV13) at all into Marquette.

I hope when 7 goes digital they at least double the power. 7 from time to time gets stomped by CHBX out of Wawa Ontario and I see programming from Sudbury!

Even when 7 isn't getting stomped by CHBX the signal has been snowy. So, please, if you are going to call yourselves a Marquette station double the power on DTV 7 when the time comes --Thanks

There are many of us that did prepare for the transition over the past couple of years, spending hundreds of dollars. Some will continue to try everything possible, and throw more money at it, only to find that it doesn't matter. We still cannot receive TV 6's signal.

Finally after a week, at least TV 6 has commented publicly that people are having lots of trouble with this, however, you need to explain to everyone somewhere on this website WHY they can receive channel 13 and not channel 6, I had to call your station to find out that TV 6's digital UHF signal is not as strong as the VHF signal from 13. Please explain this to all the frustrated people!!!! Also, it sounds like maybe "someday" the TV 6 signal will be stronger, we also would like a more deffinate answer as to when and "if" this will happen, nobody wants to spend anymore $$ on equipment if it isn't going to work. Also to other reader's, I would like to hear on here from anyone that is able to pick up channel 6 on a digital TV or convertor box over the air???? I have not read any comments from people that can receive it????

Baloney-One again WLUC is shifting the blame of not getting their Weak Signal to the Viewers. On the DTV Section of this Website you'll see people who live close to the tower and can't even get the Signal and all of the people who live further out who spent quite a bit of money for new TV's-Expensive Antennas, Antenna Amplifiers, etc etc and can't pick up 6's Weak Signal yet can pick up WNMU(All 3 channels crystal Clear) and WJFW's Rhinelander(Small Station)2 channels.
And I have just as many hills and valleys getting Rhinelanders signal as getting a signal from Republic except Rhinelanders tower is alot further away.
Guy you mentioned who works for Radio Shack should have told these people getting converter boxes that it won't help them
Even the FCC section of The Digital TV Transition Reception maps show what a Weak Signal WLUC's(Used to be Someplace Special)is putting out

The DTV transition is no trouble at all if your cables are correctly bipolarized. Go to Screen 47 of the DTV Converter Box On-Screen Installation Guide and use the resident GPS to correctly align your antenna for each channel (allowing for local ionospheric conditions) and ARRRGGGHH!

Technical reference:

http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/tv-d-day-usa/